| Home  Blogs Help Search Login Register  
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Espace wheels  (Read 3591 times)
JMcD
Newbie
*
Posts: 5


« on: May 11, 2009, 02:23:56 pm »

Hi,

Can anyone tell me the details of the 16" steel wheels on an early phase 4 espace. i.e. no. of studs, pcd, et etc.

Does anyone know if they'll fit an early phase 3 espace?

Cheers john
Logged
JMcD
Newbie
*
Posts: 5


« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 07:51:00 pm »

Aparently what I should have asked is whether or not the 16" steel wheels from and espace IV phase 1 will fit an espace III phase 1 or 2.
I'd also be interested to know if the alloys are transferable too.

Thanks
Logged
Lennart Sorth
Administrator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 817



WWW
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 01:36:09 am »

Aparently what I should have asked is ...
heh - don't worry. I used the phase1,2,3,4 designation for a long time until I was forced to revise as Renault insisted on using the Espace IV for their conventional steel creation. I have put the model and phase numbers into order here: http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/history.html

Regarding your question, I have or have had both cars, but frankly don't remember the answer.  But I am pretty sure my J63 (2.1td 1994) had only 4 bolts, but I can see that the picture from its instruction manual shows a car with 5 (?)

Also, the centre hub diameter is probably larger on the JE - this again only from memory.

/Lennart
Logged

Lennart.Sorth@matrasport.dk
Murena 1983 1.9i silver // Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0d 2012 white // Smart 4two cdi 2010 blue //
Anders Dinsen
Administrator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2822



WWW
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 07:16:04 pm »

You are right, Lennart that your old J63 had 4 bolts. The JE all have 5. The V6 J63 Espace's seem to share the JE dimensions.

So I'm afraid the answer to John's question would be a no. They are not compatible. JK (the steel Espace) wheels will, however, fit the JE as well as the Avantime.

I have digged a little information, and the JE wheels are 5/108/60.1 (holes/diameter/hub)
J63 are 4/100/60.1
J63 V6 is 5/108/60.1 - like the JE Smiley

/Anders
Logged

'82 Murena 2.2 prep 142
'01 Grand Espace 24v
'08 Smart Fortwo 0,8 cdi
Lennart Sorth
Administrator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 817



WWW
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 07:39:37 pm »

You are right, Lennart
YES! ..  :-)
However, this is the picture tat confused me - it comes from the front cover of the instruction booklet for my old J63:

http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/Gallery1/Med/j63.html

5 holes for bolts - but it may be a result of some form of artistic freedom exercised by the guy who made the booklet. :-)

/Lennart
Logged

Lennart.Sorth@matrasport.dk
Murena 1983 1.9i silver // Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0d 2012 white // Smart 4two cdi 2010 blue //
Anders Dinsen
Administrator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2822



WWW
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 07:42:41 pm »


Todays success for Lennart Cheesy

Quote
However, this is the picture tat confused me - it comes from the front cover of the instruction booklet for my old J63:

http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/Gallery1/Med/j63.html

5 holes for bolts - but it may be a result of some form of artistic freedom exercised by the guy who made the booklet. :-)

... and that is a V6 Espace, which has the SAME mounting flange as the JE. Just to confuse, I suppose!

/Anders
Logged

'82 Murena 2.2 prep 142
'01 Grand Espace 24v
'08 Smart Fortwo 0,8 cdi
Martin Tyas
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 271


Espace, because it's worth it!


« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 09:53:10 am »

Regarding interchangeability of wheels... it is not just about the number of studs and PCD.... there is also the inset to take into consideration.

You can see many wheels on such as e-bay and on alloy wheel web sites advertised to fit the Espace but the inset is totally different from original. This does not mean that they will not fit but what it does mean is that depending upon how different the inset is from original, the steering geometry can be affected and also the load on the wheel bearings.

The inset of a wheel can usually be determined from a stamp or sometimes molded into the inside of the rim during casting and will be something like E43, which I think from memory is the inset for JE wheels.

Martin
Logged

1968 Cessna 182L Skylane
1991 BMW 520i SE Auto
2002 Grand Espace 2.2dCi "The Race"
2003 Astra 1.8i Cabriolet "Edition 100"
2011 Insignia SRi VX-Line Red
2011 Honda VT1300CX Fury
Anders Dinsen
Administrator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2822



WWW
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 05:13:26 pm »

Regarding interchangeability of wheels... it is not just about the number of studs and PCD.... there is also the inset to take into consideration.

You are, of course, absolutely right, Martin!
Logged

'82 Murena 2.2 prep 142
'01 Grand Espace 24v
'08 Smart Fortwo 0,8 cdi
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to: