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macaroni
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« on: June 22, 2009, 07:06:01 pm »

Can anyone suggest an alternative source for the electric window regulator please?
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 08:24:12 pm »

Need someone to confirm but .....

I heard that the Renault 9/11 were the same (I cannot remember who told me this, so I am not sure if this is correct). Can anyone confirm this?

 When I had my first Murena 10 years ago, I picked up one secondhand as a spare and looked to be the same as the Murena ....looked like it would fit with some small mods.
 

Have seen R9/11 regulators for sale here.

http://www.windowregulatorman.co.uk/renault.htm

AGAIN - WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO CONFIRM THIS PLEASE!!

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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 09:04:34 pm »

£74.03 for new motor, seems a bit expensive to me.

I have read somewhere that someone fit a motor from a regular mercedes. As i remember well, little mods were needed.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 06:19:34 pm »

Need someone to confirm but .....

I heard that the Renault 9/11 were the same (I cannot remember who told me this, so I am not sure if this is correct). Can anyone confirm this?

 When I had my first Murena 10 years ago, I picked up one secondhand as a spare and looked to be the same as the Murena ....looked like it would fit with some small mods.
 

Have seen R9/11 regulators for sale here.

http://www.windowregulatorman.co.uk/renault.htm

AGAIN - WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO CONFIRM THIS PLEASE!!



The motor of the R9 and the R11 is the same.

http://www.espace-murena.com/technique.html
Équivalence Moteur lève-vitre   Renault 9, 11

and also (if you can read French) http://www.matra-passion.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2781&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Jan

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 10:39:42 am »

Thanks very much for the info.

My garage claimed that the window was slow because the regulator was fraying. Could this be possible?

Antony
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 11:31:53 am »

there another topic here :
http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,925.0.html
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 03:38:21 pm »

I saw that thread, but have already tried everything suggested.
The motor is fine, is was new from Matramagic a couple of years ago and spins as hard as the drivers side.
I have cleaned out the runners and lubricated them with talcum powder.
The window goes down slowly, but won't return up without being pulled.
The regulator is my last hope!
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2009, 01:03:54 am »

At the last meeting someone told me there is a adjustable bolt on the regulator that you can reach with a long screwdriver with the window open somewhere near the mirror.
It pushes the slider on the casing, and it could be to tight making sliding difficult.
I did not verify it yet, but maybe worth looking at.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2009, 06:03:14 am »

At the last meeting someone told me there is a adjustable bolt on the regulator that you can reach with a long screwdriver with the window open somewhere near the mirror.

I have never seen such a bolt on the regulator I have here. I'll check, of course. What would the purpose of the bolt be?

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2009, 07:43:31 am »

I have no idea, maybe to push the spring in the tooth or something.
Have to check ou for myself to look what he meant, but don't have the car at hand at the moment.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2009, 09:08:42 am »

At the last meeting someone told me there is a adjustable bolt on the regulator that you can reach with a long screwdriver with the window open somewhere near the mirror.

I have never seen such a bolt on the regulator I have here. I'll check, of course. What would the purpose of the bolt be?

/Anders

Day before yesterday I rolled down the driver side window all the way, only to discover that it got stuck in that position Angry So yesterday I spent the day fixing the problem. Turned out that the tube, guiding the spiral, had broken off the top of the worm gear housing and jammed. After several failed attempts with glue and plastic padding, I fabricated a bracket that replaced the two metal tabs holding the nylon housing to the frame. The bracket extends above the motor and allowed me to clamp the tube tightly in place. It now works like it should, although a bit slow. Smiley

Anyway, during this process I saw what Oetker is talking about. At the top end of the motor there is a screw that I suspect is meant to adjust the "end play" of the motor shaft. If tightened too much the motor won't turn freely. Too loose and it may damage the brushes by sliding back and forth. This screw can probably be reached with a long screw driver, if the window is all the way down.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 12:37:39 pm »

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If tightened too much the motor won't turn freely.
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This made things clear to me.
Because of rust at the other end of the motor, the motor runs bad.
Loosening the bolt wil give some play and that's probably the reason his windows works better as he said.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 12:40:33 pm »

This screw can probably be reached with a long screw driver, if the window is all the way down.

I tried it some weeks ago, heard it at the same meeting as Oetker.

The crew can be reached in the way you described: window down and a long screwdriver.

Jan
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2009, 05:29:00 pm »

I found this on a Danish site for T. Hansen.

There is at manual i several languages eks. English, German and French.

I can se there is a guide for the Matra Baghera so may be it also fits a Murena.

The link are:

http://www.thansen.dk/product.asp?c=2926561624&n=-1712886982&pn=-1712886662

and for the manual:

http://media.thg.dk/DAT/files/40740.pdf

The price is about 135 Euro

Kim
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2009, 06:08:33 pm »

The T-Hansen kit is for replacement of the "manual" handle only.
The kit can not be used for repair og the original electric window system.

Hans
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