Color codes

[RazorbackNOR]

I'm thinking about getting a couple of bottles of spraypaint for some parts on my Murena, but does anybody know the colorcodes for the paints used on the Murenas.....? Mine is gold colored. Is this the "Platine (FV9393?)" or Cannelle(PVV8404?)"?



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[Jon Weywadt]

I'm thinking about getting a couple of bottles of spraypaint for some parts on my Murena, but does anybody know the colorcodes for the paints used on the Murenas.....? Mine is gold colored. Is this the "Platine (FV9393?)" or Cannelle(PVV8404?)"?



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Hi Razorback.

That is a beautiful color your car has, but I am not sure it is an original color.

Look at Roy's FAQ pages, he has an entry on the colors and number for those, on his site.

[RazorbackNOR]

Thank you Jon, yeah I looked at his pages, without getting any wiser.... since it says there both Platine(gold)(FV) and Cannelle(bronce)(PVV), and i dont know which is which...

They were: Platine (gold) (FV), Corail (rose) (NW in a Talbot chart I have, but WW in a Talbot UK listing!), Vert Hudson (dark green) (JV) and Bordeaux (red) (possibly RW) metallic colours plus Blanc Neve (white) (WY) with brown/white check (1.6) or brown/honey velour (2.2) interiors. For 1982 models the Bordeaux colour was dropped and they added Rouge Mephisto (red) (PSX) non-metallic and Titane (silver) (PKY) metallic with grey/white check or black/grey velour trim, which was also now the interior colour for the white cars. Later still they dropped the Platine and Corail colours, and added the non-metallic Jaune Mimosa (yellow) (PCX), plus two metallics: Cannelle (bronze) (PVV) and Bleu Colombia.

[JL]

Not sure about where you are but in the UK you can take your car to an automotive paint supplier and they are able to match the paint quite accurately and most of them will mix the colour and fill a spray can for you.

Regards
John

[RazorbackNOR]

That wouldn't be a problem here either, other that the fact that she's not a runner now, and roads are icy ass hell from now until end of april....


Sent my father to one of the few automotive paint supplier we have here with one of the lightpods, hopefully they can get a match on something.

[Jon Weywadt]

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Sent my father to one of the few automotive paint supplier we have here with one of the lightpods, hopefully they can get a match on something.

Try on some inconspicuous (not easily seen  ) place first.

There was this post that talked about colors also. It has photos of the Mephisto and coral reds

http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,520.0.html

[Oetker]

http://matradoc.free.fr/tableaux.htm

scrol down a bit.

[RazorbackNOR]

Yes Oetker, I saw that one. and from what I can see there it is Cannelle. But looking at the charts I got worried....

The VIN number says it is made in 83 only, with (1)Pied de poule beige-brun and/or (5)Velours rayé havane "Trèves" interior. very strange since I have (2)Velours froissé miel capitonné boutons

Looking further down, and checking the VIN number, it says CX on the next table this shows a 2.2 CX never having Cannelle paint.... And if it was a DX(84) it would have Velours Trèves Havane(5) interior, beige/brown stripes....

None the wiser.....

[suffolkpete]

I don't believe it's platine.  The gold on my 1981-built car that is revealed when the blue paint (and the white paint underneath it) is chipped off is a quite different colour   I wouldn't worry about the trim colour.  Matra seemed to make it up as they went along, using anything that came to hand, or perhaps a previous owner has changed it.

[Oetker]

After 30 years it is logical it has been resprayed and it would be obvious that it it is not the exact color anymore.
Mine was red when I bought it, and also on the papers that came with the car.
It was not the Mephisto red so I also had to find out.
Investigating the car I found a spot of Titan grey, and that must have been the original color.
I also needed paint and visited a specialist.
He made some paint for me and it is exact the color.
Think you should do that to.

[roy4matra]

I'm thinking about getting a couple of bottles of spraypaint for some parts on my Murena, but does anybody know the colorcodes for the paints used on the Murenas.....? Mine is gold colored. Is this the "Platine (FV9393?)" or Cannelle(PVV8404?)"?

Neither.  Platine is gold and Canelle is bronze.  All the colour codes are in my FAQ's and this appears to be Corail (sort of rose metallic) if it is the original colour.  Looks to be in nice condition.   We had a few here but the only one I know of now is John Allan's.

Your door mirror is hanging down as if the casting has been broken (common owing to poor casting) and maybe a poor repair.  Our club member Greig has now been making some out of solid aluminium which means you can repair it better than new.  He has new long rods too.  All in the club magazine.

Roy

[RazorbackNOR]

I'm thinking about getting a couple of bottles of spraypaint for some parts on my Murena, but does anybody know the colorcodes for the paints used on the Murenas.....? Mine is gold colored. Is this the "Platine (FV9393?)" or Cannelle(PVV8404?)"?

Neither.  Platine is gold and Canelle is bronze.  All the colour codes are in my FAQ's and this appears to be Corail (sort of rose metallic) if it is the original colour.  Looks to be in nice condition.   We had a few here but the only one I know of now is John Allan's.

Your door mirror is hanging down as if the casting has been broken (common owing to poor casting) and maybe a poor repair.  Our club member Greig has now been making some out of solid aluminium which means you can repair it better than new.  He has new long rods too.  All in the club magazine.

Roy

Corail seems to be more orange rather then the "golden" color of mine....

[roy4matra]

Neither.  Platine is gold and Canelle is bronze.  All the colour codes are in my FAQ's and this appears to be Corail (sort of rose metallic) if it is the original colour.  Looks to be in nice condition.   We had a few here but the only one I know of now is John Allan's.

Your door mirror is hanging down as if the casting has been broken (common owing to poor casting) and maybe a poor repair.  Our club member Greig has now been making some out of solid aluminium which means you can repair it better than new.  He has new long rods too.  All in the club magazine.

Roy

Corail seems to be more orange rather then the "golden" color of mine....

No Corail is not Orange in the slightest.  It is a pinky metallic and looks very similar to yours.  The only reason I'm not saying it is for definite is that it looks almost too good to be original (sorry if this is not the case) and the 'Murena' badge on the front has definitely been replaced, which is often a sign that it has been repainted, and if it has been repainted - did they get the colour exactly correct?  Also colour photos don't always appear true on screen.  But is very close to Corail if it is not original.  (The reason you can tell the 'Murena' is not correct is that very few people these days seem to realise how it should be fitted!  It should NOT be straight.  It should match the slight 'vee' curve of the rubber in the centre above it.

One other possibility is that someone has repainted with Terre de Feu that was on the Bagheera.  That is also a slightly pinky bronze metallic.

Roy

[RazorbackNOR]

Well, the attached picture was not of my car, but one that best showed the color like my car. These are pictures of my car http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,814.msg6526.html#msg6526
The car looks more light silver colored on these pictures. On the french site linked earlier, the only color that would be close is the cannelle. The car also have some decals along the sides which I believe are from when it was new.

[roy4matra]

Well, the attached picture was not of my car, but one that best showed the color like my car. These are pictures of my car...

Then your car is definitely Corail - I can tell from the collection of photos.

On the french site linked earlier, the only color that would be close is the cannelle...

The colour of the car in the first item of this thread is nothing like Cannelle.  Cannelle is a dark brown bronze, and was only used on the Murena in 1983.  It is also used on the Rancho.  The Rancho never used Corail to my knowledge.  If you want to see a Murena in Cannelle, download my brake booklet from my website.  The car on the cover is a 1983 Cannelle.

You must be careful about cars and photos on other websites.  For example, there are some cars registered on the Murena-Espace website where the owner has stated it is Cannelle when you can see it is Corail and since the car is a 1981 that would be correct.  The Platine (Gold), Corail (light rosy metallic) and Cannelle (dark bronze) are quite different, and as I stated the original picture here shows a car in Corail if it is the original Murena colour, or possibly Terre de Feu from the Bagheera, OR it is not a Matra colour at all.  It does look too 'full bodied' if you can understand me, which is why I am a bit dubious about it.  I thought it might just be the photo, but since the ones of your car look O.K., maybe not.

I have an original 1982 Talbot-Matra colour chart which shows the Platine and Corail.  Whether it will scan and display correctly, I'm not sure but I might try it.

Roy