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Oetker
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« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2016, 05:46:50 pm »

The axles for 2.2 and 1.6 have different lenght.
I heared (but not confirmed by me)  that the 1.9 engine needs the 1.6 arms to make more room for the engine.

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I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
TELBOY
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2016, 08:00:40 pm »

I am by no mean an expert, but surely the 1.9 being a bigger engine would benefit from the extra space afforded by the 2.2 arms. I have got home and had a good look. It appears that 3 of the swing arms were from a 1.6 with the right hand one from Donna Looking different and being in excellent condition, I believe from a 2.2. The only way I am assuming this is that (again only from what I have read and not experience) the 1.6 appeared to be two pieces welded together as shown in the photos and the 2.2 appeared to be 4 pieces!   The one I have treated and cleaned came from the 1.6. The other one is the same as the others but came from the 1.9. I hope I am explaining this correctly
Tel
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Oetker
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« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2016, 07:59:14 am »

This seems to be the problem.


pics Bart Maztra

You better PM Bart Maztra about it.
He did de de conversion before.

Ragards Herman
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I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2016, 05:02:26 pm »

Hi Oetker,
The top photo shows a 1.6 swing arm, judging by the weld show!
Tel
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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2016, 12:51:23 am »

Hi Oetker,
The top photo shows a 1.6 swing arm, judging by the weld show!
Tel

For the benefit of all Murena owners (I have already called and spoken to Terry as my internet connection is terrible today) but you must be careful with Murena trailing arms.  You cannot just swap between 1.6 and 2.2 as there are important differences.

The original 1.6 trailing arm was made from two pressings (top hat cross-section) welded along the flanges and was easily distinguished from the 2.2 trailing arm which was made from four flat shaped plates welded along the corners to form a box section.  However, now the originals have all gone, the replacement copies are now BOTH made in the manner of the 2.2 arms so initially they look the same, but they are not!  Since the 2.2 has a 260.9 mm diameter rear brake disc the mountings for the rear calipers are further back and if you fit a 2.2 arm on a 1.6 with the smaller 238 mm dia. rear disc, the pads will be half off the disc!  Also since the track is 20 mm wider on a 2.2 the hub is 10mm further out each side, and so requires different drive shafts.  Since the 2.2 rear discs are unique and more expensive, you don't want to be having to buy these for a 1.6 car.

So please take care when doing things like this or even suggesting the wrong information on the forum.  Please check the facts first.  Someone unfamiliar can easily be misled if they don't read all of a post and only see the wrong information and not the correction.  Thank you.

Roy
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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2016, 10:11:08 am »

Many thanks to Roy, Herman and jlg..................after measuring the disc it appears the trailing arm is a 1.6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone got a good one for sale?Huh??
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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2016, 11:49:33 am »

There is a pair (1.6) on Leboncoin for 300Euro make an offer? They look in good condition and he has a lot of other bits and bobs
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TELBOY
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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2016, 04:10:20 pm »

did a search gib but couldn't find them!
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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2016, 04:43:11 pm »

did a search gib but couldn't find them!

There is a couple of good looking 1.6  trailing arms on this page. Contact them via e-mail with a little Google Translate message. I have used this site before and paid via PayPal successfully.

https://www.leboncoin.fr/annonces/offres/haute_normandie/occasions/?o=3&q=MATRA+MURENA
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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2016, 05:16:20 pm »

https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_auto/926415399.htm?ca=11_s

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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2016, 07:21:43 pm »

Got to say a massive thank-you to everyone...have got some good leads on a trailing arm...in the mean time I have removed the engine from Donna! well the boy did (hes smaller and has dainty hands to reach manifold bolts etc...............
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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2016, 06:40:14 pm »

Just wondering if anyone has tried this to prevent universal cv boots from slipping off?  Additional retIning clip rivited to can using ultra short rivets!
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« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2016, 06:44:54 pm »

sorry haven't explained that too well! The new universal boot then goes over the riveted retaining clip which forms a lip to prevent it coming off!
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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2016, 01:11:35 pm »

sorry haven't explained that too well! The new universal boot then goes over the riveted retaining clip which forms a lip to prevent it coming off!

Have 2 x Tywraps on mine.
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« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2016, 01:51:02 pm »

maybe I should have tried that! lol
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