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renaultbiler
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2007, 10:05:03 pm »

Also pre BII cars has ADAC function on some, then it is handled by the display prosessor for sure. If i pick parts for an early JE0A for example it does not ask if it has ADAC or not - again this might indicate that replacement instruments are the same (all with ADAC possibility) but factory assembly differed in production (different part numbers then). I have a friend that just got a 98 JE0A without CAN - there is no ADAC active but the wiper stalk still has 3 dots on it. We will try to activate it with my clip as soon as i go for a visit but its 700km away so its not a drop-in to test it.

roa - what B version is your BII ? As you know i have a BII B2 lying around along with some instruments and i will bench this as soon as i get a BII adaptor. Then we will see if this B2 has ADAC or not -or if it can be activated.

BTW roa, Did you check the flow data wiring ?
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2007, 12:40:57 am »

... I have a friend that just got a 98 JE0A without CAN - there is no ADAC active but the wiper stalk still has 3 dots on it.

That's simply for standardisation, at least in the U.K.  I have seen the stalk with the three dots on most if not all the vehicles here, whether they have ADAC or not.  It is cheaper to just have one stalk.  It's the same sort of thing with UCH and BII - although the various cars have different versions fitted at the factory depending on original specification, there is only one version available in aftersales, and you have to configure them correctly for the vehicle after fitting as a replacement (when the original has failed for some reason).  On one occasion, I tried to see if I could turn on more options than the original spec. had, specifically trying to add ADAC to an Espace that didn't have it, and it did not work, since there was more to it than just the BII.

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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2007, 09:27:46 am »

That's simply for standardisation, at least in the U.K.  I have seen the stalk with the three dots on most if not all the vehicles here, whether they have ADAC or not.
My intensions with this statement was that at least the button is present as it would be useless to try ADAC without it (some cars does not have the 3 dotted stalk button). The car might still have ADAC option inside IF for instance the cluster have been previously replaced OR that the car for some reason has ADAC hardware/software present but not activated from factory. The technician replacing a cluster would in most cases print out the current configuration and use the same setup when replacing a new one (as he would when replacing a BII).

On pre CAN the instrument cluster holds all the instrument config while on CAN models BII handles all config exept hazard on/off by PLIP activation.

I will dive into the 97,98,99,00,07/00 and the 07/01 wiring book to see if there is different wiring as a result of ADAC or not but i suspect that they would not bother to issue different harness pieces on this only.
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« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2007, 07:45:32 am »

Just a small update from a JE0A 1998 pre CAN that i replaced the heater matrixes on. Plugged in the CLIP to see if any ADAC option existed in the instrument setup but on this one it was not an option. Unfortenately i did not have time to remove the dash-top to note part number on the instruments this time.
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2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2008, 11:34:45 pm »

Regarding ADAC on BII vehicles - stumbled across a fault finding section in NT3171A 87/68 where it is described the loss of ADAC function, and if none of the measured checkponts (stalk and BII connections) fixes the problem one is to replace the BII unit - this means that it is infact the BII unit that handles the ADAC functions as we previously suspected.
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2008, 10:13:07 am »


"Myth confirmed" it seems, but shouldn't that be NT3385, Renaultbiler ?


Off topic regarding the same document:
-Found a funny fault finding section regarding loss of main beam headlights;
After no less than 12 checkpoints on a variety of fuses and connections, the last sentence says:

"If the fault persists, check the bulbs."  !!!!   

-No wonder Renault-garages are expensive Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2008, 11:06:20 am »

You may be correct on the NT number as i looked through a pile of paper i once printed out, it might have been shuffeled around.

Funny that, bulb as a last resort  Smiley
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2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
Service Online: www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?cid=qqkX
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