uberprutser
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2011, 04:15:39 pm » |
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@michaltalbot. Each his own I guess. But don't get me started on CO2 emissions or air borne solid particles. Those are just scams from our goverments to raise more taxes. At this point I'm not interested in a fast cam, thanks for the offer. But you however might be interested in my spare 2.2 Tagora GLS engine. You will probably need it in time @Murramor. Is the gearbox on the left side? On what side are the intake and exhaust manifolts? 88Kw would be enough for my 1.6. But the problem with most modern engines in probably the immobilizer. So you'll end up buying an expensive aftermarket ECU. @Jon. Thanks for pointing that out. I had a good look at the pictures and they gave me some ideas. I even sent a PM to the topic starter hopefully he'll respond to my questions.
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uberprutser
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2011, 12:30:39 pm » |
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VR6 would be nice but this Alfa lump is more then enough for my limited driving skills. But in time, who knows. I don't think you'll end up with more space to work in with any new engine. Unless you consider cutting of the boot. (Sorry Michaltalbot, I can't be held responsible for any hart attacks you might suffer when seeing this) More pics here: http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n544/wobbe98/whpracing/?start=all
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Jon Weywadt
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2011, 12:33:17 pm » |
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and have room around it for maintenance...
Roy
Roy, you got to be joking.... Being just to working on a Opel Ascona/Vauxhall Cavalier MKI 1,3 , the Murena enginebay can be considered anything less then a tight fit as is... As someone here once said, working on the Murena will give you pain in muscels you didn't even know you had. I have only seen one Alpha V6 in a Murena and I don't recall if it provided more space for maintenance access, than the original 2.2. My experience is that in order to do work on the 2.2, you empty the boot, climb in, switch to your universal elbow and wrist joints and get at it. If your joints are not of the universal type you sometimes have to make alternative solutions, such as the alternator belt tightening gadget shown in my post here: http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,1389.0.html
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murramor
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 11:33:09 am » |
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@Murramor. Is the gearbox on the left side? On what side are the intake and exhaust manifolts? 88Kw would be enough for my 1.6. But the problem with most modern engines in probably the immobilizer. So you'll end up buying an expensive aftermarket ECU.
If one moved the Pug 207engine to the rear of a Murena so it would still have one reverse gear and 5 forward, it would have the exhaust at the front next to the fuel tank and the inlet at the rear next to the boot. The gearbox would be on your left as you stand at the rear of the car and look forward. regards Ron Murrell Sydney, Australia
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roy4matra
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2011, 07:22:30 pm » |
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and have room around it for maintenance...
Roy
Roy, you got to be joking.... No I'm not. After working in the trade for 40 years the Murena engine bay is, especially for a mid-engined car, roomy for working on. You want to try working on many of the other modern cars. As someone here once said, working on the Murena will give you pain in muscels you didn't even know you had. You try working on an old pre-war car or some of the sixties models with wide flowing wings and a narrow engine bonnet. You need to learn over but you mustn't damage the wings in any way, and even with wing covers that is easily done. It's a back killer! A Murena by comparison is easy. As for the VR6 powertrain - I have measured one up and seen one out on a trolley, and there is little difference to a 2.2 standard setup. That is why it is the obvious choice. That 'six' really is as small as our 'four'. Since it is also fuel injected, there is no carburettor to work on... As I said I'm not in favour of swaps but space-wise this is almost ideal as both an upgrade to more power and smoothness yet without being a crammed in fit like the Alfa V6. Roy
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