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roy4matra
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« Reply #334 on: July 10, 2020, 11:24:04 pm » |
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That is not what I wanted to hear Roy!!!! As you know I couldnt find a webber 32 /34 DRTC anywhere. This is what was fitted, so went for a solex equivalent which was also one of the carbs listed in my PUG 405 manual When I ordered it I did specify it was for a 405 1.9 XU92C engine but there are no casting marks on the carb so am assuming it is a 32/34 z1. I have just measured both barrels and they are both 34 so the plot thickens. I may have to get a different carb then, but will see what it runs like once (if) I ever get it running. On a similar vane when I removed the 32/34 DRTC the manifold had a heat resister block and then a restrictor plate!!!!! Was seriously thinking of not fitting this back on, what do you think? First you can't measure the barrels and expect that to denote the specification in any way. The venturi size is at the narrowest point down inside the carb, and if the venturis are cast in, then you will usually find the size cast on the outside of the carburettor casing, if you look carefully. But even if the venturis are a particularr size, the jetting can vary to suit different engine specs. which is why all new carbs have a small tag attached to one of the casing screws with a coding which tells you exactly what the specification (all the venturis, jets, emulsion tubes, floats etc.) is for that particular version of the carb. In the pages from the workshop manual I sent you, you will see that the Solex 32/34 comes in about 4 or 5 different specs. depending on whether it was fitted to a 1.4 or 1.6 and whether it had an auto box, or air con. etc. There is never just one specification for a particular carburettor. The figures you need first are the venturi sizes. If these are correct then the exact jetting is the next things to check. If you had checked my website and the FAQ about Solex carbs. for the Murena 2.2 you would have seen how the correct one was the 34 CICF 141 and that some people were sold a 34 CICF 161 which is not set up for a Murena and although it might look the same, was for a particular Citroen and does not work correctly on the Murena. The specification is all wrong. This is the same with any car/engine/carburettor. You need the correct one specified for it. In your case, for a Citroen/Peugeot 1.9 engine there will be numerous Solex and Webers that were fitted to cover different versions, whether manual or auto and with or without air con. and even the date when produced is important as they had to meet varying emission levels. They were usually Solex 34/34 or Weber 34/34 on a 1.9 litre engine, and if the one you found fitted to your Murena when you first got it was a Weber 32/34 DRTC maybe even that was an incorrectly fitted one anyway. Does or did that 32/34 Weber have the code tag? What is the new Solex code tag? These are the things you have to go by, when investigating fitting a carburettor, especially when it is to something not originally designed with either this engine or carb. Roy
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« Reply #335 on: July 11, 2020, 02:56:19 pm » |
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RELAX, BREATHE and be HAPPY.... What a relief. Solex obviously knew what I wanted when I said 405 1.9. This took a vast amount of searching, following links and generally getting confused on the interweb. Found three numbers hidden behind the choke mechanism (611) which identify it as a 34 / 34 carb (doesnt specitfy Z1 or Z2. Believe it or not I eventually found that on a Volvo website!!!) The order number on the invoice is not an order number as it says but a model number (9422212900) Identifying it as (suitable) for 405 1.9. after further cross referencing it is also used on citreon BX 19. I have however not been able to ascertain the jet sizes. I even removed both main jets and neither is marked. On the down side I have discovered I could have got it a hell of a lot cheaper!!!!! But to end on a positive side................... My reproduced chassis plate has arrived, and...... Alaine has informed me the other plates should be ready in a few weeks but judging how long it took for this one I wont hold my breath. Thanks again Roy. At least i can relax (til the next time) Just waiting for the new gaskets and cable adjuster so I can fit it.....................................
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roy4matra
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« Reply #336 on: July 11, 2020, 03:41:51 pm » |
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RELAX, BREATHE and be HAPPY.... What a relief. Solex obviously knew what I wanted when I said 405 1.9. This took a vast amount of searching, following links and generally getting confused on the interweb. Found three numbers hidden behind the choke mechanism (611) which identify it as a 34 / 34 carb (doesnt specitfy Z1 or Z2. Believe it or not I eventually found that on a Volvo website!!!) The order number on the invoice is not an order number as it says but a model number (9422212900) Identifying it as (suitable) for 405 1.9. after further cross referencing it is also used on citreon BX 19. I have however not been able to ascertain the jet sizes. I even removed both main jets and neither is marked. On the down side I have discovered I could have got it a hell of a lot cheaper!!!!! But to end on a positive side................... My reproduced chassis plate has arrived, and...... Alaine has informed me the other plates should be ready in a few weeks but judging how long it took for this one I wont hold my breath. Thanks again Roy. At least i can relax (til the next time) Just waiting for the new gaskets and cable adjuster so I can fit it..................................... It's good to know they did supply the correct 34/34 carburettor. It did seem strange that if you specified it was for a 1.9 they would have sent one for the lower powered smaller capacity engines. The new chassis plate looks good Terry. Roy
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Matraman
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« Reply #341 on: November 03, 2020, 10:56:02 am » |
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Don't be too embarrassed about the Porsche, after my Bagheera I had a 924 S in the mid 90's, then a 944 S2, then a 911, then a Cayman and now a Macan S and a Murena 2.2. So it's possible to love both! The earlier Porsches were mainly higher mileage cheap ones and needed plenty of tlc, so make sure you test your 944 fully before the tour of Britain. Check water pump, cam belt and idlers, and steering joints, in addition to the other usual stuff. That 4 cylinder engine is usually very solid and reliable. Google Hartech if you want the full run down on what to look for.
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