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one neat engine for sale. it runs good but it takes a while to start it if has been standing for a while (think its the carb)  could run 0.8liter/10km
and gearbox is excelent except it has a crack where startermotor is mounted so it will not engage properly when starting.   it can be fixed...

it comes complete except distributerhead wich i manage to crack when removing engine  ::)

I hope you're not thinking of replacing it with a non-Matra engine.  We've only just got the Murena forum calmed down after Matranut's post.  Still, if you fancy a nice Zetec engine then there's someone who knows how to do it  ;)

Hi
To be a little provocative I will say that there is no such thing as a Matra engine (in Matra's commercial cars):
The D'Jet used an Renault Gordini engine
The M530 Used a Ford Taunus engine
The Bagheera used a Simca 1100TI engine
The Murena used Simca/ Talbot or Peugeot engines
The Espace used Renault running gear.

That said the above mentioned engines were  factory fittet so thay are of cause the original engines for the vehicles mentioned. But the engines are not "Matra Engines" Matra did not even bother to put a Matra sticker on the engines.

Happy Easter
Hans

LoL.. :).

I "fear" Oskar is contemplating a pug swap of some sorts...? :)

well im not leaving the french talbot/peugeot family
remember that peugeot 505 shared the same chryslerengine so a peugeot engine aint the same as leaving the matra religion and becoming a ateist  :P

I know this might not mean a lot to you(and Michal will probably kill me for this) ... but you have my blessing son.. :)

ps: keep us posted on the project

Hey! Are using me also for scaring your children? :D

Pug engine 1,9i is fair unit for replacing the 1,6 and as I told somewhere before, if Murena would be produced after 1984, than 1,9i would be in it, I think.
Renault engine in Djet was not choosen by Matra, they simply assumed it with the factory. Than they used engines from that producer which they were confederated with (first Ford, than Simca resp.Talbot). If it had been on them, they wanted to produce road cars with their V12 engine, but it was a nonsense a bit ;)
And how it was with Espace? Matra prepaired the project on the Talbot platform but Peugeot decided not to invest money in it because Peugeots managers thought that monospace vehicule won't have succes on the market (ha ha  ::) ), so Matra went to ask for money to Citroen but with the same result. Than they went to Renault and Renault said yes. But not because of Renault geniality, but because they had one requirement - stopping the production of Murena! They knew about project 4S (2,2 with 16V technology and cca 180PS) and is fact that Murena was much better than Fuego (with all in front) and don't think that engine behind the rear axle in Alpine is better than middle-engined Murena. If Murena had 2,2 16v and PRV V6, than Alpine A310 would not had any chance. So Matra decided to stop Murena and start to produce the Espace with Renault components  :( and how it was unsuccesfull is known very well...  ::) thank you very much PSA!  ::)

HA HA HA HA!!! belive me Michal.. If I had any.. I WOULD!! and it would get them to bed with time to spare!!  ;D ;D ;D

But of cause.. If ever I get kids.. I will only fit genuine spare parts on them... and not mess around with any fiberglass spoilers! ;)

I think you are right about the alpine though...
If Matra had kitted the Murena out as a true sports car with a proper engine gearbox, brakes etc .It would easily have been able to match the alpine.  (in my opinion a Murena is only a "sports coupe"... 118hp??.. C'mon!)

And a funny fact that I have found is, that alpine owners I've spoken to, tends to patronize Murena drivers.... I wonder why that is?? 

ive started a blog on the engineswap  :) 

I like your info michal.  the rest of the car will be genuine oiginal, ill promise  :)

Krede: patronize? My dictionary has positive and also negative explanation of this word, did you mean that they feel "higher" than us or that they have respect before Matra?
118bhp? Not bad for cca 1 ton of weight. Don't forget that it was in 1980 and it was a follower of Bagheera with 85 resp. 90bhp  ;)

yes....it's like they think the Alpine is better because it's a six cylinder and more expensive.

What is the price on the engine and gearbox? I need only the gearbox but if the price is right i can buy them both.
Jonatan

3000skr and you get it all
the alternator is almost new  :)

sold to matramannen  :)