RazorbackNOR
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« on: January 28, 2008, 04:11:54 pm » |
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Does anybody have any experince with the Facet pumps? Since the car i'm looking at need to have a new pump, i'm considering using an electrical. Would like to get it looking good, and not to big. Something like these perhaps...? Bolted to the wall into the cockpit to get a clean, short and neat looking system. I think the Facet pump is a pressure pump and not a suction pump. And can not find any diagrams for it.... Is this a problem or not, since the pump will be about 50cm above the bottum of the tank. Hard to tell without any diagrams..... And must it be mounted verticaly, or could it be mounted horisontally? Any ideas?
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Anders Dinsen
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 05:10:37 pm » |
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The facet pumps are widely used. The important thing when choosing a pump is to find one which supplies fuel at the correct pressure and can suck the petrol out of the tank. It must also be able to supply the necessary amount of fuel per minute to run the engine at full load. Some recommend over-pressure pumps and a pressure regulator to make it compatible with the needle valve in the carburettor, but I would personally prefer a pump with integrated pressure regulator, like the membrane type pump I have fitted on my car. The Murena carb has a fuel return line, this will take care of most over pressure problems. I have collected my knowledge about the subject here: http://dinsen.net/murena/electrics/fuelpumpA word of caution when you do the job: Take care. Working with fuel is dangerous. The same applies to the carb. So keep your 220V lamps at good distance, take care not to make any sparks, and if/when you spill small amounts of fuel, let it dry away in open air. If you use a cloth to remove it, throw it in water afterwards so it can't burn. Don't put it in your paper waste basket. I always keep my fire extinguisher very close when I'm working with the fuel system. I may be paranoid, but I want to keep my car, have four kids to support, and hate the smell of burnt hair - Anders
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 10:20:37 pm » |
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Working with fuel is dangerous Yahhh... but it smells soooooo good!! especially 98 octane leaded!! WAY better then Diesel.. have four kids to support And a wife... and a dog... and a cage full of birds... and a guinneypig.... ..... Did I leave something out? But seriously... get an electric fuel pump as soon as you can... Its common knowledge that the standard 2.2 fuel pump is prone to leaking... onto the exhaust manifold!! My car had an enginefire on that account some years back.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 10:47:52 pm » |
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And a wife... and a dog... and a cage full of birds... and a guinneypig.... ..... Did I leave something out? ... my wife's car, the house, the garden...! I agree about the noise issue. Oetker, I like your strip board!
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RazorbackNOR
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 06:50:47 am » |
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The Facet is noisy? Wouldn't be the best place to bolt it on the wall just behind the driverseat then...? but can you really hear it over the noise of the engine....? Found out that it lifts 0,6meters, to it would be able to do the job atleast. The silver top delivers 4-5,5 psi and 36 us gallons/h. The silver top fast road delivers 6-8 psi and 32 us gallons/h
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 09:32:45 am » |
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Because of the 45 degree upright angle needed to mount the pump, You mean 90 degrees i persume? Must be upright? Damn, that makes it somewhat harder to fit.... and yes its noisy. How much noise are we talking about...?
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 09:43:15 am » |
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No, 45 degree upright position away from the tank. The plate behind you're back wil function as a soundboard. I have to try out myself howmuch noise it wil be, because I wil mount it there to. I am gonna use plenty of soft rubber to isolate the vibration. I gues it depends on the pump. In case of emergency, put the volume of the radio a bit up or put in a Devil exhaust
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I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different. Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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