Title: 2.2DT Injectors?
Post by: markymarkmark on September 17, 2023, 04:38:20 pm
Hello All,
I'm so pleased the forum is still running.
After 20 years of owning Espaces, I have possibly the need to replace or refresh the injectors on one of my 1998-2000 2.2DT engined Espaces.
Now this is a job I've never had to do and I think it's only needed because after 380000 kms and following the fuel strikes last year, when some bad fuel may have been pruchased, I am getting some surging and or lack of power and black smoke from the exhaust when running at around 75-90kph in 5th gear. It feels like in these circumstances it starts running on 3 cylinders but then runs fine at tickover and at higher revs in any gear - so I suspect an injector?
Does anyone have any other advice or suggestions, please?
Is removal of the injectors easy and not at all like removing the common rail units that have put me off the DCi engined espaces?
I have seen an advert for replacement injector nozzles - would you recommend these or do I need complete new injectors? (big price difference)
Thanks for any advice,
regards,
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
I'm so pleased the forum is still running.
After 20 years of owning Espaces, I have possibly the need to replace or refresh the injectors on one of my 1998-2000 2.2DT engined Espaces.
Now this is a job I've never had to do and I think it's only needed because after 380000 kms and following the fuel strikes last year, when some bad fuel may have been pruchased, I am getting some surging and or lack of power and black smoke from the exhaust when running at around 75-90kph in 5th gear. It feels like in these circumstances it starts running on 3 cylinders but then runs fine at tickover and at higher revs in any gear - so I suspect an injector?
Does anyone have any other advice or suggestions, please?
Is removal of the injectors easy and not at all like removing the common rail units that have put me off the DCi engined espaces?
I have seen an advert for replacement injector nozzles - would you recommend these or do I need complete new injectors? (big price difference)
Thanks for any advice,
regards,
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
Title: Re: 2.2DT Injectors?
Post by: roy4matra on September 18, 2023, 02:31:41 pm
Hello All,
I'm so pleased the forum is still running.
After 20 years of owning Espaces, I have possibly the need to replace or refresh the injectors on one of my 1998-2000 2.2DT engined Espaces...
Thanks for any advice,
regards,
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
I'm so pleased the forum is still running.
After 20 years of owning Espaces, I have possibly the need to replace or refresh the injectors on one of my 1998-2000 2.2DT engined Espaces...
Thanks for any advice,
regards,
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
Please email me directly (roy@matraclub.org.uk), not here, as I need to know the full vehicle spec. first. Are we talking F9Q or G8T? I need the full VIN, vehicle Fabrication number and engine Fabrication number.
Roy
Title: Re: 2.2DT Injectors?
Post by: markymarkmark on September 25, 2023, 06:40:35 pm
Hello Roy,
Thanks for looking.
I'll email you tomorrow with a photo of my VIN plate.
My cars are all 2.2DT engines, so G8T71X engines - The one in question is a G8T716 motor and it's my best Espace mk3.
I have never owned a DCi - too scared!
I think it's the last of the pre-canbus DT's, with proper relays and fuses - It would be great if you can tell me more about it.7
Regards
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
Thanks for looking.
I'll email you tomorrow with a photo of my VIN plate.
My cars are all 2.2DT engines, so G8T71X engines - The one in question is a G8T716 motor and it's my best Espace mk3.
I have never owned a DCi - too scared!
I think it's the last of the pre-canbus DT's, with proper relays and fuses - It would be great if you can tell me more about it.7
Regards
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
Title: Re: 2.2DT Injectors?
Post by: markymarkmark on August 08, 2025, 08:31:48 am
Hello Roy,
Thanks for your advice earlier regarding the symptoms I was having when I started this thread.
You really helped me and I didn't get chance to respond further at the time... Life and all! ::)
To everyone that still loves espaces, there's a very active community of enthusiasts here in France and as time goes by I find people with rust free espaces everywhere, pushing 400k Kms.
I have sources for all the spares you could want and I'm happy to share, at no personal benefit if anyone has need.
The UK, where I started with espaces 30years ago, is needlessly destructive to car, with the obligatory annual salt baths corroding matra's best attempts rapidly. Here is France I see cars without a blemish underneath.
The worst bit being the abs mounting brackets, curiously un galvanised!
Anyway, thanks Roy, it was the egr valve, as you said!
Good luck to anyone still running espaces!
Regards, Mark
1998 grand espace DT
2000 espace DT
Re: 2.2DT Injectors?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2023, 06:40:35 pm » Reply with quote Modify Remove
Hello Roy,
Thanks for looking.
I'll email you tomorrow with a photo of my VIN plate.
My cars are all 2.2DT engines, so G8T71X engines - The one in question is a G8T716 motor and it's my best Espace mk3.
I have never owned a DCi - too scared!
I think it's the last of the pre-canbus DT's, with proper relays and fuses - It would be great if you can tell me more about it.7
Regards
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
Thanks for your advice earlier regarding the symptoms I was having when I started this thread.
You really helped me and I didn't get chance to respond further at the time... Life and all! ::)
To everyone that still loves espaces, there's a very active community of enthusiasts here in France and as time goes by I find people with rust free espaces everywhere, pushing 400k Kms.
I have sources for all the spares you could want and I'm happy to share, at no personal benefit if anyone has need.
The UK, where I started with espaces 30years ago, is needlessly destructive to car, with the obligatory annual salt baths corroding matra's best attempts rapidly. Here is France I see cars without a blemish underneath.
The worst bit being the abs mounting brackets, curiously un galvanised!
Anyway, thanks Roy, it was the egr valve, as you said!
Good luck to anyone still running espaces!
Regards, Mark
1998 grand espace DT
2000 espace DT
Re: 2.2DT Injectors?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2023, 06:40:35 pm » Reply with quote Modify Remove
Hello Roy,
Thanks for looking.
I'll email you tomorrow with a photo of my VIN plate.
My cars are all 2.2DT engines, so G8T71X engines - The one in question is a G8T716 motor and it's my best Espace mk3.
I have never owned a DCi - too scared!
I think it's the last of the pre-canbus DT's, with proper relays and fuses - It would be great if you can tell me more about it.7
Regards
Mark.
2.2DT Grand Espace 1998 RHD
2.2DT Espace 2000 LHD
