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What are the differences between the two colors Mephisto Red and Coral ?

I have always thought of my own car as 'red' - mephisto red

- but looking at different pictures it seems to be more orange - which could indicate like the 'coral' or maybe just caused by lose of brightness and color......

See attached pictures

/ Henrik

(hmmm - not easy to add pictures)

"mephisto red".. yeyy.. same as mine :)
In sharp sunlight mine also look sort of light orange'ish
Id say that those cars are the same color (mephisto red).. Looks like the color on my car, but in different lighting.

http://www.bilgalleri.dk/html/gal_visbil.asp?ID=73508&ipc=232869

I seem to remember there is a colour table on one of the french sites....  ???

Is this Your Murena? Excellent condition!!!  :o

Also mine is Mephisto red  :D but when I bought it, the colour was trully orange! After 16 hours of polishing it is red again.

It's espace-murena.com - when you register your car, you get a colour scheme to select from - but it is not very accurate in the colours.............

Looking in the espace-murena register, I think the second picture I attached was the 'Coral' color.

I am thinking of repainting my car, but I can't decide the color - I am like a woman  ;)

The red is really nice - as you all know  :) but then I was thinking of red leather interiour which would then require the car to be light blue, silver or white.

Well, I need a new windshield before I can start the paintjob ........

/Henrik

I would like to have my car resprayed too. It looks pretty good from 10 feet away, but up close you can tell that it has quite a few flaws.
I'm not particular fond of Red cars (maybe that explains why all my cars except one, four in all, has been red?.. and well the last one was kinda red'ish.. from rust)

Silver would have been my choice 5-7 years ago..but now... you are more or less drowning in German silver family turbo diesels.
White is a real sportscar color, like on the integras or better yet, the mk2 Supra 2.8's from the early 80'is. Problem is that white seems to be the new trendy color that everybody's got to have so I'm not too sure about that one either.
I've considered black, as this was the "cool" color to have in the 80'ies, but im not sure how well it would go to the black plastic trim.

That car is sickeningly tidy! I always thought mine was OK but it looks like a wreck compared to that, well done and keep it that way!

 This is totally different in Czech rep. White cars are 10 - 20.000,- CZK cheapers, nobody wants them. Why? Because most of all company cars are white, so when somebody is selling white used car, everybody thinks that it was a company car with X00.000 kms. White Murena? From my opinion, NO!  :) I had silver 2,2 and I though that it is the best colour for this car, but now I have red 2,2 S and I can't imagine it in another colour. I think, when Your car originally was red, it has to be red again.

I have a black Murena in the garage.
If you want, I can take som photos tomorrow.

In my opinion it doesnt  come to it's rights - a Murena has to be in bright colors, eventually also red or orange.

/Henrik

Yahh.. that was what I thought aswell... black tend to blur out the shapes... but id sure like to see some pictures regardless :)
Guess nothing beats white really... and especially since it will be much easier to maintain.. fiberglass and all :) 

Nothing like a mat black three liter Ford Capri with slot mag rims and vinyl roof  though..... When I was a kid, a guy further down our street had TWO of those!!!


As for upholstery, I have persuaded they guy that does that kinda stuff where I work (army) to do my seats in leather, as soon as the summer/vacation is over.
1000dkr pr seat seems like a fair price to me.. ohh..  + the cost of the leather... witch will be at least the same..... but I think its worth it. :)

Excellent!
Have you considered to have the drivers seat headrest extended, before wrapping it in leather ? - I think even smallish drivers could benefit - and I certainly only have a nect-rest in my car :-)

Does he take orders ?

/Lennart

My headrest is fine.. its only headroom that is a problem...  :)
I don't think so.. think he was overcome by my murena when he saw it, and he mentioned that it was a "friends" price, and that it could not be done any cheaper.
But Ill ask him.. :)

Your car is mephisto red Henrik, or at least it looks like it from the photos, but if it has had any areas repainted, then the accuracy will depend on how good they did the job.  Coral is very different from mephisto.  For a start Coral is a metallic colour.  It is a sort of rosé colour.  All the colours and colour codes are listed on my website in the FAQ pages.

The only car I can think of here in Coral is John Allan's 1.6 Murena.  It is quite a rare one now since all the metallics suffered from the lacquer cracking problem, and most were resprayed often in different colours.

Personally I love the car in the yellow that Matra produced, but for hiding scratches and being able to 'blend in' I still like my original silver.  Yes I know it is so common now, but no one notices when you are travelling at very high speeds, whilst the bright colours draw immediate attention!  I can vouch for this from experience with all my cars: silver, red and yellow Murena.

It appears that one of our members in DK has an original Coral Murena. It's the one between the yellow and the white one in this photo:

(http://www.matrasport.dk/Gallery1/Events/20060902_DK/Med/0902-155439.jpg)

There's only little visible difference between the (faded) red in the foreground (mine) and the coral one further back.

- Anders 8)

And here's a colour chart:

http://www.matra-passion.com/Voitures/murena_2200.htm (http://www.matra-passion.com/Voitures/murena_2200.htm)
(scroll down)

Difficult to see the differences for me - but now I am aware that the Coral is a metalic.

/Henrik

White Murena, in very good condition.
Original painting, photo taken 2005

The black murena - or should I say 'Dusty black'  ;)

UH!.. it does look rather nice in white  :)

Hello murena-fellows out there.

I have been looking for the original codes of the colours used for Murenas for a paintjob of my 2,2s (under total reconstruction) - which original came in grey, but sometime i the 80' was changes to red, and along the line i stumbled over a description of the codes in a FAQ. It also descibe the combination between colours and interior.

So for what it's worth - here it comes:

"FAQ: I want to respray my Murena. What were the original colours?

They were produced in 5 colours originally with two interiors: a check pattern cloth seating in 1.6 models,
and a plain colour buttoned style velour material in 2.2 models. The letter codes are Talbot paint codes.

They were: Platine (gold) (PFV), Corail (rose) (PNW), Vert Hudson (dark green) (PJV) and Bordeaux (red)
metallic colours plus Blanc Neve (white) (PWY) all with brown/white check or brown/honey velour interiors.
For 1982 models the Bordeaux colour was dropped and they added Rouge Mephisto (red) (PSX) non-metallic and Titane (silver) (PKY) metallic with grey/white check or black/grey velour trim, which was also now the interior colour for the white cars. Later still they dropped the Platine and Corail colours, and added the non-metallic Jaune Mimosa (yellow) (PCX), plus two metallics: Cannelle (bronze) (PVV) and Bleu Colombia.

The blue is a puzzle since the name Colombia is not listed in the Talbot codes of that period but an incomplete Verilac code label of which I have a copy, shows UX5787. Apparently this should be UX578706 - does anyone recognise this? There were also a few cars sprayed Black (PXY) probably to special order. Finally, 'S' models were only available in Red, White, Blue or Silver all with black/grey interiors.

Paint manufacturer codes were - Nitrolac (non-metallics): 3321 white, 3401 red, 3403 black, and 3405 yellow; and Verilac (metallics): 8391 Green, 8392 Corail, 8393 Platine, 8403 Titane, 8404 Cannelle, 8405 Bordeaux, and possibly 3404 Bleu Colombia.

The bronze 2.2 cars had a brown/black diagonal striped velour trim as did the 1983 green 2.2 cars. The blue and yellow 2.2 cars, like the '83 2.2 red, white and silver cars, had a grey/black diagonal striped velour, in place of the plain buttoned velour."

Regards Jorgen
 

HEJ JØRGEN!

Long time no hear og velkommen til FORUM!
Hvordan har din bil det? Dig? Familien?

Hilser fra Marianne,

- Anders

Hej Anders - Tak, har levet lidt tilbagelænet i både dette og matra-cars-forum, men har på sidelinien glædet mig over dit engagement og fantastiske evne til at skabe gode og realiserbare løsninger med afsæt i dine tekniske kundskaber.

Og hvad med tid til realisering af min Murena-drøm?

Tja, arbejdet har krævet sin del, alle 4 unger er som teenagere ramt af ombygning og Jane er netop blevet færdig med sin diplomuddannelse, så det er først nu jeg for alvor er kommet igang - godt hjulpet af nogen, der kan lidt mere både i relation til bodywork og mekanik.

Going global: So at last it seems like my project is in good progress, and I would like to share some pictures of the bodywork done.

I haven't desided which colour-code, I will use for repaint - Maybe the original silvergrey (even that Lennart's car is The silver Murena.dk), maybe a darker Titanium-grey. I on the other hand have at week spot for blue cars (my Espace had the nicest midnigtblue colour) - if I should be thrue to the Murena 2,2s-roots  the columbia blue would be a obvious choice.

I still have the time for thinking - the paintjob are scheduled after our summerholiday in august.

By the way - feel free to give your opinion :-)

Regards Jorgen

Og lige et par spm. til Anders:
Hvilken af dine Matra'er har Marianne udvalgt som sin?
Ser vi endnu en Murena på gaden (en 1,6 er vel mere en pigeting  ;D). BTW, Hils hende mange gange tilbage....

Tak for de pæne ord, Jørgen :)

Vi er godt nok også ramt af ombygning, med et eller to af vores fire børn med ADHD (ikke helt afklaret endnu) og den ældste med noget, der hedder Tourette Syndrom. Det er en omgang, der kræver noget og Murena'en er ren meditation for mig.

To the global discussion:

I think you should go for the silver. First, Lennart's Murena has been exported along with its owner to "det store udland", UK, second - it's a great colour for a Murena. Second to red, or course! :D

I'll be interested in learning about your experiences with the paint job as mine needs one too.

Hejhej,
Anders

Og så dine spørgsmål: Mariannes Matra er vores Grand Espace 3.0 V6 24v. Den kan køre næsten lige så hurtigt som min Murena, som hun nødig sætter sig ind i og slet ikke kan forestille sig at køre!

J117 er blevet solgt i dag, i øvrigt... familien savner hende allerede.

Og jeg som troede jeg var hårdt spændt for  :)
I har da godt nok fået noget at se til  - det må vi videre tale om når vi mødes engang om forhåbentlig ikke så længe...
Havde næsten gættet at Marianne havde "familieudgaven" af matra'erne, vores er afløst af en 7 pers. MPV-udgave med glaspanoramatag, stadig fransk (307sw).

Back to the colour-issue. I really love the idea being true to the originality of the car and bring it back to the colour, it was born with - in this case silver, as you for the pictures can see underneath the S-spoiler, now removed for the repaint.

I will keep you informed about the progress

Hils omkring dig - regards

Jorgen