Title: Indicators stopped working
Post by: choowonit on May 12, 2009, 06:59:05 pm
Well as usual another strange electrical problem on my 1996 2.2 dci
for some reason the indicators have just stopped working (left and right)
Checked fuse all seem fine
hazards work fine (is this the same relay ?)
Had the stering column plastics off to check for loose connections seem fine, ( but when there managed to fix my clutch which i thought was the old dodgy master cylinder issue, turnedd out the plastic eye on the end of mater cylinder push rod had slid partially off the clutch pedal spigot, due to the plastic retaining clip being broken but i digress)
any clues where to look nxt ?
for some reason the indicators have just stopped working (left and right)
Checked fuse all seem fine
hazards work fine (is this the same relay ?)
Had the stering column plastics off to check for loose connections seem fine, ( but when there managed to fix my clutch which i thought was the old dodgy master cylinder issue, turnedd out the plastic eye on the end of mater cylinder push rod had slid partially off the clutch pedal spigot, due to the plastic retaining clip being broken but i digress)
any clues where to look nxt ?
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: Anders Dinsen on May 12, 2009, 07:45:27 pm
Well as usual another strange electrical problem on my 1996 2.2 dci
That doesn't quite make sense... dci started in 2000 or so and 2.2 dti JE in 1997... It makes quite a difference as late model JE's have CAN bus electronics and the earlier are simpler.
So please clarify your model year! :)
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: choowonit on May 12, 2009, 08:37:22 pm
Apologies should 2.2 dt, 96 but 97 shape
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: Anders Dinsen on May 12, 2009, 08:58:47 pm
Apologies should 2.2 dt, 96 but 97 shape
Interesting, I have heard about JE's being sold in 1996, but this is the first time I come across one.
I'll have a look in my diagram book and see what I can come up with. Since the hazards light work, chances are that the relay is okay and that it's a wiring/fuse/connector problem. Can you check the fuse once more? Sometimes fuses look okay, but are in fact blown anyway.
/Anders
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: choowonit on May 13, 2009, 02:27:45 pm
Changed both fuses to be absolutely sure, still same problem left and right turn signal not working.
but still everything illuminating on hazard switch
but still everything illuminating on hazard switch
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: Anders Dinsen on May 16, 2009, 11:07:21 am
It's a strange case you have here... The most obvious reason would the switch itself, but you said you checked it. Besides, if it had failed, chances are that it would only have failed on one side, not both.
Still, I can't find anything that could lead to a problem like yours by looking at the wiring diagram. The wiring to the indicator stalk switch actually passes through the hazards switch, so it could actually be that one (or the connector).
How well are you with electrics? I can make a scan of the diagram page for you, but it's not easy to follow, I'm afraid.
/Anders
Still, I can't find anything that could lead to a problem like yours by looking at the wiring diagram. The wiring to the indicator stalk switch actually passes through the hazards switch, so it could actually be that one (or the connector).
How well are you with electrics? I can make a scan of the diagram page for you, but it's not easy to follow, I'm afraid.
/Anders
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: choowonit on May 16, 2009, 12:03:46 pm
Thanks anders, a scan of the diagram could be useful,
i will have the switch out again and have another look in that area
cheers for your help
i will have the switch out again and have another look in that area
cheers for your help
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: choowonit on May 16, 2009, 01:32:35 pm
Well thanks to your steer "stalk switch actually passes through the hazards switch" Anders it has led me to the problem.
At some point in time a previous owner had fitted an after market central locking control (obviously cheaper than buying a renault key fob lol)
the control unit was squezzed into the roof hazard switch/button box, in time this had worn through one of the wires to the hazard switch, yes you got it, the one for the indicators
many thanks again for sharing your knowledge ;D
At some point in time a previous owner had fitted an after market central locking control (obviously cheaper than buying a renault key fob lol)
the control unit was squezzed into the roof hazard switch/button box, in time this had worn through one of the wires to the hazard switch, yes you got it, the one for the indicators
many thanks again for sharing your knowledge ;D
Title: Re: Indicators stopped working
Post by: Anders Dinsen on May 16, 2009, 01:50:09 pm
Woohoo, the mystery has been solved! :D Great. You are very welcome.
I remember my wife was a bit annoyed about her old 1997 Espace having only an infra red remote central locking, and if we had not sold it in exchange for a later model with an RF key, I think I would eventually have had to make a similar modification to ours...
I wish you many joyful miles with your Espace!
/Anders
I remember my wife was a bit annoyed about her old 1997 Espace having only an infra red remote central locking, and if we had not sold it in exchange for a later model with an RF key, I think I would eventually have had to make a similar modification to ours...
I wish you many joyful miles with your Espace!
/Anders
