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Each model => Murena => Topic started by: lewisman on June 17, 2009, 08:51:56 pm



Title: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 17, 2009, 08:51:56 pm
Both Bagheeras that I owned had large fabric sunroofs which were almost as good as a targa top.  I have a dreadful, leaky glass sunroof on my murena which is pretty useless. 

Has anyone fitted a fabric type sunroof to a murena? 

A removable roof panel along the lines of an X-19 would also be worth considering... 

I know that there was a "convertible" conversion around but that was a step too far for me!


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: roy4matra on June 17, 2009, 08:58:09 pm
Both Bagheeras that I owned had large fabric sunroofs which were almost as good as a targa top.  I have a dreadful, leaky glass sunroof on my murena which is pretty useless. 

Has anyone fitted a fabric type sunroof to a murena?

Yes the factory did!  A Webasto sunroof was an option on the Murena.  There used to be two at least in the U.K.  A silver car,  A382TNS was one of them.

If you have the Murena parts fiche or a parts book you will see all the parts listed.

Roy


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 17, 2009, 09:02:26 pm
Cheers for that Roy. 

Unfortunately, although I have a parts fiche for the Bagheera and the Rancho (anyone need them?) I do not have one for a murena.

Do Webasto still exist?


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 17, 2009, 09:37:45 pm
Okay.  Just Googled "Webasto" to discover that Wabasto still exist and they even have an agent in Inverness.  It will be interesting to find out if they list a sunroof for a murena......


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: andyowl on June 17, 2009, 11:39:59 pm
I recently spoke to a man in Kent who specialises in restoring sunroofs. I think he said he used to work for Webasto before they closed.

I have not had mine done due to lack of time but I can find the number if you are interested. The price to refurbish an old one was around 400 as far as I recall.

Andy Owler


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 18, 2009, 12:28:42 am
That would work if I had an old one that fitted.  Mind you I might have a Bagheera one somewhere!  Not sure if it would be of any use as the Baggy had a different shaped roof.


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: michaltalbot on June 18, 2009, 08:38:51 pm
I've found this somewhere on internet and saved it into my PC months/years (?) ago:


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Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: andyowl on June 18, 2009, 09:04:52 pm
My present project car is an S2  Bagheera which had a factory sun roof. We took my temporary aluminium roof off today and I could easily measure the aperture required. Photo if you like too.
RSVP
Andy Owler


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 18, 2009, 10:41:47 pm
Thanks for the offer Andy.

I have a Bagheera roof lodged in the rafters of my father-in-law's barn.  It had a sunroof attached but I have no idea what condition it is in as it has been there since 1990 or so!


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: JL on June 18, 2009, 11:05:52 pm
I am considering fitting one of these, they are available in sizes 780 x 450 and 820 x 505.

What size is the roof on your car?

Regards
John


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: lewisman on June 18, 2009, 11:27:25 pm
Same size as yours! it is a 2.2 murena... ;)

Do you mean the sunroof size?


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: Oetker on June 19, 2009, 01:29:06 am
As far as I am informed, the Bagheera roof is to long for the Murena.
I puted in a Webasto glassroof, because the boardplate in the roof was misformed so I had to push it up with my head all the time.
Will not be anybody's choice for a sunroof, but my head is clear from the roof now, and keep it cool.
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/588/p1000793medium.jpg)
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(http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5467/p1000797medium.jpg)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8730/p1000800medium.jpg)
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5971/p1000823medium.jpg)
(http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4074/p1000802medium.jpg)
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6559/p1000831medium.jpg)
The glass can be removed easely


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: JL on June 19, 2009, 10:09:58 am
Sunroof size.

Regards
John


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: Oetker on June 19, 2009, 10:20:38 am
I don't have the car at hand here, but I have the plate I cutted out.
The size of that is 76x39 cm.
The frame outside of the roof is only 1.5 cmm bigger then the hole.
The glass roof is the Webasto Sky top 101.

The widthe of 39 is almost as much as possible, as you can see in the pics.
If you make it much wider it gets a bit difficult to make it fit inside at the boardplate.


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: davidewanprice on June 20, 2009, 11:42:48 am
Looks good and sounds easy enough to do. Congrats


Title: Re: Sunroof
Post by: Oetker on June 20, 2009, 12:04:11 pm
Thanks.
I never did this job before.
The most difficult was cutting the boardplate inside.
There is not much room, and a stanley knife want do it.
You need a good airsaw.

This was the most nervose part of the job.
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3316/p1000798medium.jpg)
It is a very definitive one.

Also I didn't use the original seal but puted in a rubber kit.
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/227/p1000801medium.jpg)
Everything is waterproof in the carwash.