MatraSport Forum

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Hi im in a pckle to start a fresh i bought this car as a non runner,ive scanned it with a snap on scanner and no fault code came up so scanned it with a friensa texa and it said in imobilizer screen that the key was an ivalid code,spoke to renault yeah yeah yeah well programme the key for you,its now at renault key ok imob ok no codes,but the oil level light is coming up on the dash,now is this gunna stop it from starting? no codes fuel to the pump ect ect no bangging head against my espaces plastic body panles
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(

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Update from renault 3 things in the system the ecu bll?and dashbord one of theses isnt talking tothe other cause an in-active imobilizer if it the imobilizer can i send it to one of these places to have the code ripped out if that is the fault?
 

From what you say, it could simply be wiring, but it could also be a more serious problem like a module which is not working any more.

No I don't think that the oil level light would stop the engine from running - at least not from cranking. The solution to that would be to remove the connector to the oil level sensor as it should really be able to run without it.

- Anders

I bought my Espace as a crash write-off and had it rebuilt. When it was ready to run it had to go to Renault to figure out why it wouldn't start.

It turned out to be a problem with the windscreen wiper circuit, so although the oil warning system seems a bit unlikely I wouldn't discount it yet! 

I wonder if the system detects any unusual power demand before allowing start to take place?

Take a look at the section covering the immobilizer in the extract from the Renault service manual that can be found in Lennart's "Vault"

http://www.matrasport.dk/vault/Espace/JE/3441A.pdf

It provides plenty of information about re-programming etc.

Martin

right lads ive been speaking to a fella that said if im getting coms to and from the ecu that it s not that and that he has had to change in the past 5 ecn wiring looms he said people adjust the sterring height and the loom is so short that it buggers it up so if i refitthe loom under colum more than likely this is the fault,does this seem feesable to you guys? 8)

ok hi all i need a bii unit made by sagem part no.6025371152
any body that can help please drop me a line
Thanks Nathan

What is a "bii unit"?

Is that the computer in the passenger compartment?

P/n sounds like a Renault p/n, though one of those specific to the Espace.

- Anders

yes the part has either been changed or corupted by some idiot,so now renault connont reconfigure anything,there price £340+vat for part alone,the part is the interface between imobilizer and ecu and solinoids ect ect

Hi guys update time the new unit is with renault all thats left now is to reunited everything together hopefully the ecu and glowplug relays ect ect havent been kaput through some idiot trying a v6 b11 unit in the car fingers crossed x  <------- not a kiss to you lot fingers crossed ;D

Good to hear. Sorry about the price... I do know it's expensive. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!

- Anders

Cheers anders lets hope hey!im in the trade and im never surprised at how some people still try too put a square peg in a round hole!have you ever come across this?i had a fella the other day that said his ford focus was not starting after hed fitted a ecu from a scrap yard?and your like oh my god how stupid can some people be?granted it would be nie to be able to just plug a secound hand ecu in,but its never going to happen is it.

Hi guys got the espace back today new b11 unit fitted all okey dokey oh except for being £640 lighter in the pocket"Damn them infernal main dealers!"At least dick turpin wore a mask!  >:(

So it's all running now... ?! :) Good to hear that you got it working. Maybe you should give them a mask next time you pass by..? ;)

newest chapter of the espace saga,no rear no plate lights no rear wash wipe no rear central locking,not a fuse but there is a black box under wiper motor with 4 main wires live earth and i guess signal,the earth has conty live has volts but here the good bit the live also has continuity through to earth!all the time ignition on,now this is not my far qua help please electritian type dudes ,ive checked for chafes so far back to the dash then it all goes evrywhere?  ???

That box is a CAN bus interface - either the connection to the main computer is gone (the signal wire you can see) or the box is blown. I'm afraid you have to go back to your Renault friends :(

 >:(does this car get any better!damn,anders there are two plugs going into the box one has four wires red black grey and grey with white flash,then the  other plug is much like a ecu plug slide over lockthis has several wires to it,is this the canbus interface?why would the small plug with the four wires have continuty from the live to earth if not conected to the box,where does it go once under the floor through to the dash then i dont know? ???

lennart or anders one of you guys has the "workshop bible onthis car"can you put the link back on for me to download please
Regards nathan

All I have is actually in the "vault" - which I have restructured recently. Check the "vault" link at the bottom of the Espace index page here:
   http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/espace-index.html

 ;Dwell took the car to renault today had a moan and winge at them for the tailgate unit not working and guess what ?,they forgot to programme it,now its done everything is tickytabo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!touch wood that is any body seen the new ford fiests advert where the waiter asked the girl what is like to drive?,she gives him a big sexy kiss,well if shed asked me 2 weeks ago what the espace was like youd proberbly kick someone in the goolys "balls to my european freinds"but now its back to the kiss i love my espace once more!!!!! :D

 ;D 8) Glad it's all sorted! :)