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Title: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 26, 2006, 11:21:41 am
Guys,

I seem to be getting about 550 miles out of a tank of diesel on my 2001 2.2 dCi Grand Espace - I was just wondering if this is normal.

Also, how long can I go on reserve; since the fuel-pump-icon shows up? Does the sign change once I'm getting close to running out or is the icon there permanently visible switching between icon and "service"... ?

Thanks! Loving the car so far :)  8)


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Lennart Sorth on October 26, 2006, 03:46:54 pm
550 miles out of a tank of diesel

our car (2002 2.2 dci The Race, 103.000km) regularly passes 1000km (620 miles) on a tank, - by which time we pour some 75-80 litres into it. 

Provided our tanks are equal size (which they of course should be) 550miles seems a bit short -  something close to 33 mpg. We get 36-37 as the norm. But then again, thats within 12% so maybe its just topology and driving style ?

I have a good measurement of 300 km strictly 125 km/h (GPS) steady (sort of boring) motorway-driving with a constant speed - where our car apparently did just over 15 km/l  (42 mpg) - which probably is as good as it gets.  This is derived from the notoriously inaccurate tripcomputer, corrected with the knowledge of how much diesel I pour into the tank etc.

Driving 90 km/h will probably make it slightly better, but changing speed is the costly part. Seen from a fuel-economy viewpoint, it just doesn't like queues/traffic.


Also, how long can I go on reserve
dunno, - and since its a diesel, I haven't been so brave to actually find out - so we fill it up either before or just after it reminds us to.

I think it is normally 5 liters, i.e. 40 miles or so?



Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 26, 2006, 04:03:03 pm
Thanks Lennart. I think the last tank ended up at 580 miles, but this one a bit shorter. I'm probably getting a bit used to the car meaning that I'll probably drive it a tad more aggressively - which I should stop of course. I'm also commuting through some horrible traffic from time to time, sometimes only crawling at 20-40mph (A34 north of Oxford). I'm sure I'll get better economy out of it if I'd run a bit more continious motorway speeds without acceleration/slowing down.

I asked about the reserve because, just as you mention; it's a diesel, I don't want to experience running out! :)

Thanks again!  :)


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Lennart Sorth on October 26, 2006, 05:52:30 pm
crawling at 20-40mph (A34 north of Oxford).

Is that the one towards the north-east, which passes Silverstone ? - or is that A43 ?

I recently had my dose of UK traffic when I naively thought I could drive from Reading in the morning traffic, and arrive in Dover in good time ... HA HAHA - silly me!  -  it took us the best part of 4 hours (!) - but we got to see Windsor Castle, as we attempted to cut the troubled M4/M25 corner.  As it happened, half of Berkshire had decided to do the same.  :-)

/Lennart


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 26, 2006, 05:55:46 pm
The A43 goes past Silverstone - my previous commute route - which is much better... A34 is one junction down on the M40 then towards Oxford.....

UK traffic is generally silly...  ::)


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Will Falconer on October 26, 2006, 09:44:33 pm

Also, how long can I go on reserve; since the fuel-pump-icon shows up? Does the sign change once I'm getting close to running out or is the icon there permanently visible switching between icon and "service"... ?


As I've actually run my 24v out  of  petrol I can tell you that the gauge goes to 0 orange bars and then cheekily goes back to 1 bar shortly before running dry!  I can't remember how long it went on  the -1 bar for but I think 0 bars is equivalent to about 5 litres.



Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 27, 2006, 09:01:08 am
Thanks Will! Hope running out didn't cause too many problems! :)


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Martin Tyas on October 27, 2006, 12:23:29 pm
I once did 50 miles in my 2.2dCi Grand after the last bar had gone out and when I filled up it took 79.8 litres. According to the specifications it has an 80 litre tank capacity.... Needless to say I haven't pushed my luck that far again.

In my experience 550/580 miles on a tank is OK for commuting in UK traffic. Mine quite often does less than 500 on a tank when used solely for local running but then I've also had 680 miles when motorway driving.

Martin


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 27, 2006, 12:29:38 pm
That's excellent info Martin! :) I've done some 40 miles I think - but unfortunately I went for the pay-at-pump at Tesco this time which mean that I was only able to fill up with 60 worth of sludge...  So I couldn't tell a) how much I could get in, b) what my MPG was...  :-\

Next time... :)


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Will Falconer on October 27, 2006, 03:57:46 pm
My wife saw me parked beside the road as she drove past but didn't think...so I persuaded her to come back and collect me (but only because I had our 4 year old with me!) . I was able to cycle back to the car with 5 litres so we soon got going again.


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: Lennart Sorth on October 27, 2006, 04:58:15 pm
we soon got going again.
heh - are you talking about the car or your wife here, Will ? :-)

/Lennart


Title: Re: Tank Range and reserve - 2.2dCi
Post by: TheJoker on October 27, 2006, 05:01:12 pm
we soon got going again.
heh - are you talking about the car or your wife here, Will ? :-)

 ;D but 5 liters of what... ;)  :P ;)