Title: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: testacorsa on November 22, 2006, 12:31:54 am
Hello everyone.
I am brand new to this forum, but have been a matra/simca/talbot fan for quite a few years. Very happy to see such a nice page inkluding an active forum for such a rare car in such a small country :)
I just read that Jesper bourght Jos´ Murena V6, which to my knowledge was one of the first to be converted. I could see that It was some time ago, and nothing has been posted about it since. I am very courious to hear how it´s going on with the Danish authoraties ::) - can´t be easy - or cheap :'(
I guess this is mostly a question for Jesper, but anyone who knows about any news, please reply to this post.
Well... That was my first of hopefully many posts in here.
James bond: "That´s a sweet little nothing you´re almost wearing"
I am brand new to this forum, but have been a matra/simca/talbot fan for quite a few years. Very happy to see such a nice page inkluding an active forum for such a rare car in such a small country :)
I just read that Jesper bourght Jos´ Murena V6, which to my knowledge was one of the first to be converted. I could see that It was some time ago, and nothing has been posted about it since. I am very courious to hear how it´s going on with the Danish authoraties ::) - can´t be easy - or cheap :'(
I guess this is mostly a question for Jesper, but anyone who knows about any news, please reply to this post.
Well... That was my first of hopefully many posts in here.
James bond: "That´s a sweet little nothing you´re almost wearing"
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Anders Dinsen on November 22, 2006, 09:28:48 am
He Testacorsa! welcome aboard with the friendly Matraciens ;)
The new rules on registrations say that if a car is registered in another EU country, then it should be accepted in Denmark as-is. My own experience with this is with my Murena 2.2 prep 142 which has been running in England for 20 years until I imported it here in August. My car is a 1982 where noise emissions state a max of 82 dB, but as the car has been running in the UK it had to be accepted as it was and was measured to a noise level of 90 dB. This is now the limit of my car, despite the fact that it is outside the limits.
This is also the reason why, if you want to build a kit car here in Denmark, you ship it to UK to have it registered there, and then import it back.
- Anders
The new rules on registrations say that if a car is registered in another EU country, then it should be accepted in Denmark as-is. My own experience with this is with my Murena 2.2 prep 142 which has been running in England for 20 years until I imported it here in August. My car is a 1982 where noise emissions state a max of 82 dB, but as the car has been running in the UK it had to be accepted as it was and was measured to a noise level of 90 dB. This is now the limit of my car, despite the fact that it is outside the limits.
This is also the reason why, if you want to build a kit car here in Denmark, you ship it to UK to have it registered there, and then import it back.
- Anders
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on November 22, 2006, 09:34:31 am
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This is also the reason why, if you want to build a kit car here in Denmark, you ship it to UK to have it registered there, and then import it back.
...witch is the reason who so few people build kit's in DK..I think we are all waiting to hear news about Jespers v6
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Lennart Sorth on November 22, 2006, 02:47:20 pm
if a car is registered in another EU country, then it should be accepted in Denmark as-is.
Yes, and that is SUCH an improvement from the old days, where you simply couldn't build a kit-car. The only ones really possible were converted VW Beetles, under the Buggy regulation. And frankly, how many really want to drive a "Lamborghini Countach" with a VW1300 engine in the boot ? (well, apparently one - there is a white one here in my town!)This is now the limit of my car, despite the fact that it is outside the limits.
- hey Mr "Anders Limitless" - To art there must be no limit. :-)I wonder how much noise the V6 makes, since there is only room for one silencer of sorts.
/Lennart
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on November 22, 2006, 04:23:35 pm
If i were to build a kit car........
I would build one with a strong and stiff metal chassis...for good handeling and safety... I would galvanize it so i wouldnt have to worry about rust...
On top of the chassis i would put fiberglass panels.. to make an excotic and exciting car.. I would of cause give it pop-up headlights.
For the engine and suspention I would use parts from other cars that are common and inexpensive, but still able to give a nice and sporty feeling in the car.
Hmmm I wonder what kind of car i would end up with....
I would build one with a strong and stiff metal chassis...for good handeling and safety... I would galvanize it so i wouldnt have to worry about rust...
On top of the chassis i would put fiberglass panels.. to make an excotic and exciting car.. I would of cause give it pop-up headlights.
For the engine and suspention I would use parts from other cars that are common and inexpensive, but still able to give a nice and sporty feeling in the car.
Hmmm I wonder what kind of car i would end up with....
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Lennart Sorth on November 22, 2006, 04:40:42 pm
Hmmm I wonder what kind of car i would end up with....
heh - I gather most of us feel that way :-)
Actually, that would be a valid reply to my new challenge:
http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php?topic=316.0
Building a "new" Murena from scratch.
I don't have the tools/skills/guts, so that option is not for me.
Some actually do this. I was once contacted by a guy in Holland who had all the parts needed... some 6000 parts (!). That was a few years ago, so either he is still assembling, or he has put the project on hold.
I know that Roy Gillard (MECUK "president") has a similar plan, - he has a new chassis, and wants to build a new Murena from an old one - remaking all the dodgy parts into GOOD parts. And to install aircon, and ... and... THAT is going to be a stunning car.
/Lennart
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Anders Dinsen on November 22, 2006, 04:55:02 pm
This is now the limit of my car, despite the fact that it is outside the limits.
- hey Mr "Anders Limitless" - To art there must be no limit. :-)Absolutely right! But unfortunately bureaucrats aren't artists.
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Actually, that would be a valid reply to my new challenge:
http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php?topic=316.0
Building a "new" Murena from scratch.
I don't have the tools/skills/guts, so that option is not for me.
http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php?topic=316.0
Building a "new" Murena from scratch.
I don't have the tools/skills/guts, so that option is not for me.
Hey, you can have the dream, do the sketches, write the specification, design various details etc - all only limited by the paper and your imagination! It's excellent fun and probably just as time consuming as having an actual kit car to build!
- Anders
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Lennart Sorth on November 22, 2006, 05:09:58 pm
Hey, you can have the dream, do the sketches
Indeed I have, and I also do the sketches etc - but the point is that THEN I wouldn't qualify to give the answer "A new Murena" to the "new car challenge" ( http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php?topic=316.0 ) :-)/Lennart
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on November 22, 2006, 05:35:09 pm
The basic murena construction, is pretty much perfect as it is if you ask me.
I mean.. the galvaniced chassis and fiberglass panels is what most kits should be made up of anyway.. and Murenas are rare enough that you dont want something more "special" as you probably would if you drove.. say a mr2.
So.. one need not build a new car, but should rather just improve on the excisting car.
I mean.. the galvaniced chassis and fiberglass panels is what most kits should be made up of anyway.. and Murenas are rare enough that you dont want something more "special" as you probably would if you drove.. say a mr2.
So.. one need not build a new car, but should rather just improve on the excisting car.
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: testacorsa on November 22, 2006, 11:18:59 pm
Interesting what this thread turned into!!!
Thanks for your replies everyone, and especially Anders Dinsen that said:
"The new rules on registrations say that if a car is registered in another EU country, then it should be accepted in Denmark as-is."
- I did not know that, but this openes so many new doors - thanks!!
The really great thing about a rare car like the murena I think, is that it is unique. By that i mean that there is only one murena, and not a a range of models over the years like for instance a toyota corolla. As soon as the new one comes along, the old model looks outdated.
When this is combined with brands like Talbot and Matra - marques from the old days that don´t exist anymore (yes i know - the Renault/Matras, but they are sold as renaults), which makes it even more exotic.
To top it all, a design that is so ground breaking in it´s own time, that it will never be "old". A design that could only come out of a small company, because It is left so much closer to the actual prototype, and not faded and filtered out by "too many chefs".
Did you ever reed a magazine and seeing the new peugeot 206 prototype for instance and think - WOW finally someone dares - but then you see it in the shop a year later and what a diapointment....
Furthermore Matra has racing pedigree, and it was the daring underdog, that fighted and begged the big boss for permission to place a V12, or at least a V6 in the murena ;D - and that makes us like the them very much....
Thank god for unique cars!!!!
Thanks for your replies everyone, and especially Anders Dinsen that said:
"The new rules on registrations say that if a car is registered in another EU country, then it should be accepted in Denmark as-is."
- I did not know that, but this openes so many new doors - thanks!!
The really great thing about a rare car like the murena I think, is that it is unique. By that i mean that there is only one murena, and not a a range of models over the years like for instance a toyota corolla. As soon as the new one comes along, the old model looks outdated.
When this is combined with brands like Talbot and Matra - marques from the old days that don´t exist anymore (yes i know - the Renault/Matras, but they are sold as renaults), which makes it even more exotic.
To top it all, a design that is so ground breaking in it´s own time, that it will never be "old". A design that could only come out of a small company, because It is left so much closer to the actual prototype, and not faded and filtered out by "too many chefs".
Did you ever reed a magazine and seeing the new peugeot 206 prototype for instance and think - WOW finally someone dares - but then you see it in the shop a year later and what a diapointment....
Furthermore Matra has racing pedigree, and it was the daring underdog, that fighted and begged the big boss for permission to place a V12, or at least a V6 in the murena ;D - and that makes us like the them very much....
Thank god for unique cars!!!!
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Lennart Sorth on November 24, 2006, 09:46:07 pm
testacorsa - you are so absolutely right. You mention all the reasons we all drive these great cars. If I had the skills and money, I'd love to own one of each of Matra's roadcars - they are all so unique and ingenious.
Your comment about the actual car being close to the prototype is something I didn't think of before - but you are right. Too many chefs and importantly TOO MANY ACCOUNTANTS (to quote Roy4matra :-) ) have blunted so many nice designs for other companies.
/Lennart
Your comment about the actual car being close to the prototype is something I didn't think of before - but you are right. Too many chefs and importantly TOO MANY ACCOUNTANTS (to quote Roy4matra :-) ) have blunted so many nice designs for other companies.
/Lennart
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 22, 2007, 02:39:43 pm
Dear all,
I feel the need to reply to this post, because someone put my name in the header ;)
Regarding the v6, there's the bad and the good news.
Today, I was on my bicycle cycling along in the rain, to meet up with a wonderful mechanic, specialized in alfa Romeo etc. The bad news was, that for some unknown reason, the beautiful v6 engine had melted two pistons, and cuased major havok to the rest of the engine-block.
SO... Jos' engine is "no more". Sad to say, especially, because I took good care of treating that engine nicely. I still had not got it on danish license-plates, so there was absolutely no reason for stressing the engine inbetween the minor restorations that I have done on the car (especially electrical problems.. common), before it was set to be tested and approved.
Well, the good news is, that it seams that my mechanic can get hold of another v6, that then needs to be checked thoroughly before being put back into the car. Remember it is not cheap to get that engine out and back in again.
And since I'm not a millionaire, I need to find the right balance in this project.
Sadly, we will soon hit summer-vacation times, so it might take a month or 1,5 before the Matra-Murena-Jos-edition will hit the road for real. But me and my pregnant wife both hope to get it done, before next matra meeting. We are looking forward to meeting you all, and arrive in cool style. 8)
I'll let you all know how things are progressing.
Best
Jesper (soon to be yet another master of patience aka. sportscar enthusiast) ;D
I feel the need to reply to this post, because someone put my name in the header ;)
Regarding the v6, there's the bad and the good news.
Today, I was on my bicycle cycling along in the rain, to meet up with a wonderful mechanic, specialized in alfa Romeo etc. The bad news was, that for some unknown reason, the beautiful v6 engine had melted two pistons, and cuased major havok to the rest of the engine-block.
SO... Jos' engine is "no more". Sad to say, especially, because I took good care of treating that engine nicely. I still had not got it on danish license-plates, so there was absolutely no reason for stressing the engine inbetween the minor restorations that I have done on the car (especially electrical problems.. common), before it was set to be tested and approved.
Well, the good news is, that it seams that my mechanic can get hold of another v6, that then needs to be checked thoroughly before being put back into the car. Remember it is not cheap to get that engine out and back in again.
And since I'm not a millionaire, I need to find the right balance in this project.
Sadly, we will soon hit summer-vacation times, so it might take a month or 1,5 before the Matra-Murena-Jos-edition will hit the road for real. But me and my pregnant wife both hope to get it done, before next matra meeting. We are looking forward to meeting you all, and arrive in cool style. 8)
I'll let you all know how things are progressing.
Best
Jesper (soon to be yet another master of patience aka. sportscar enthusiast) ;D
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on June 22, 2007, 05:28:56 pm
Before you invest in a new engine, you should check with the authorities , that it in fact IS possible to get a v6 Murena on Danish license plates!!.
The rules changed last fall, meaning that it is not enough that a car has been approved in another country (tüv etc), to get it approved in DK.
The rule now is, that if you increase the engine output more the 20% from standard (you can use the 142 hp "s" for this) you will need the manufactures documentation that the chassis/brakes etc is up for it.... :-\
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Yes!! it sucks!
The rules changed last fall, meaning that it is not enough that a car has been approved in another country (tüv etc), to get it approved in DK.
The rule now is, that if you increase the engine output more the 20% from standard (you can use the 142 hp "s" for this) you will need the manufactures documentation that the chassis/brakes etc is up for it.... :-\
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Yes!! it sucks!
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 25, 2007, 11:32:51 am
...that it in fact IS possible to get a v6 Murena on Danish license plates!!...
Dear Krede,
Thank you for your interest in this matter.
It has been my intention from the beginning, to try getting this car on danish license plates with the v6-engine. 8) Otherwise I would not have bought it in the first place.
So I have been aware of this risc from the beginning.
It also means, if I cannot get the car registered in DK, I will have to sell it again. :'(
I have been in contact with the authorities, and from what we have uncovered until now, regarding rules and regulations, it seems 85% possible to make this car register with the v6 in DK. But it is not just something that you just do.
We have matched the different approvals from the netherland papers with the new Danish regulations (DK now follows a new EU-standardized documentation form, released in the fall, as you mentioned), and found that the car needs to be tested for top speed, and brake-fading issues. All other aspects should still be covered by the papers from NL.
So the reason why I say 85% chance and not 100%, is that you never know what can come up in the next step of the process, but I reckon that there is a fair chance of getting the car registered. :-X
But as I said before, I am doing a bit of a gamble. But who would not want to hear a Murena with a v6 roaring in the streets of Denmark?? (well, I guess people, not into sportscars.. but you can never satisfy everyone can you? ;D)
Best regards,
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on June 26, 2007, 03:50:20 pm
Cheers Jesper.. And thank you for the update... I am sure I am not the only one with an interest in how your "project" comes along.
Though I am (obviously) turning green from envy by the thought your v6 on Danish license plates :) , this is not the reason I keep yelling about the Danish regulations every chance I get... It is simply that I know a lot of guys that has been "caught" by the new legislations and now have project cars that they have spent loads of time and money on, that they have to abandon since they will never be able to drive them legally on the roads...
BUT! it sounds like you have the rules covered so THUMBS UP from here!! and.. will you please put me on the top of the list, of people you are gonna have to take for a drive as soon as it gets done??!!
(HA!! Anders!! beat you too it! :P )
A more selfish reason why i really, really DO! want you to succeed in getting your car on the road, is, that if (or.. lets just assume the best and say WHEN :) ) you get the paperwork sorted, all of us, who wants to up the power of our murenas, will have a much easier time getting OUR cars approved afterwards... we can simply copy your brake setup and other specifications , and we are good to go!!.. :)
Finally... it will, of cause , be nice to know, that, IF!! one day one had the money... it would be possible to make that v6 conversion myself... I'm not a big fan of Italian "engeneering" (apart from the Italian girls ;) )..
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... But look how pretty :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/krede/Dsc00052b.jpg)
Though I am (obviously) turning green from envy by the thought your v6 on Danish license plates :) , this is not the reason I keep yelling about the Danish regulations every chance I get... It is simply that I know a lot of guys that has been "caught" by the new legislations and now have project cars that they have spent loads of time and money on, that they have to abandon since they will never be able to drive them legally on the roads...
BUT! it sounds like you have the rules covered so THUMBS UP from here!! and.. will you please put me on the top of the list, of people you are gonna have to take for a drive as soon as it gets done??!!
(HA!! Anders!! beat you too it! :P )
A more selfish reason why i really, really DO! want you to succeed in getting your car on the road, is, that if (or.. lets just assume the best and say WHEN :) ) you get the paperwork sorted, all of us, who wants to up the power of our murenas, will have a much easier time getting OUR cars approved afterwards... we can simply copy your brake setup and other specifications , and we are good to go!!.. :)
Finally... it will, of cause , be nice to know, that, IF!! one day one had the money... it would be possible to make that v6 conversion myself... I'm not a big fan of Italian "engeneering" (apart from the Italian girls ;) )..
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... But look how pretty :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/krede/Dsc00052b.jpg)
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Anders Dinsen on June 26, 2007, 04:39:12 pm
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 26, 2007, 08:15:17 pm
Dear Krede,
It is not impossible at all, that I can provide you with at test-ride, and for Anders's sake: well guess who are the lucky ones.... Murenas have THREE seats, so we will be looking like this: :o :o 8) (me to the left, behind the wheel of course hehe...)
Will keep you updated.
Best regards,
Jesper
It is not impossible at all, that I can provide you with at test-ride, and for Anders's sake: well guess who are the lucky ones.... Murenas have THREE seats, so we will be looking like this: :o :o 8) (me to the left, behind the wheel of course hehe...)
Will keep you updated.
Best regards,
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on June 26, 2007, 08:43:06 pm
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so we will be looking like this: :o :o 8)
ROFL!!
Well id say more like this then : ;D >:( 8) ... Anders being the angry one because he is smaller (read=thinner) then me and has to go in the middle... "children" seat :)
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Anders Dinsen on June 26, 2007, 10:38:58 pm
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so we will be looking like this: :o :o 8)
ROFL!!
Well id say more like this then : ;D >:( 8) ... Anders being the angry one because he is smaller (read=thinner) then me and has to go in the middle... "children" seat :)
(http://tmp.dinsen.net/rofl.gif)
Trust me, I can handle it, Krede!
- Anders
Jesper, did you get your while Murena's front end fixed?
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 27, 2007, 10:59:30 am
Hi Anders,
If your'e referring to the adjustment of the wheels and the replacement of the upper front suspension joints (dont know what it's called in english) at the repair shop in Roskilde, well my wife has just brought it there today, to be fixed. (I am busy working long hours at the moment, and well.. she also likes driving murena Weeeeheee... ;D)
The only thing was, the guy being there, asked if she could come back another day, and of course she went "WHAT"? :o
We had a deal, so she basically was quite surprised, that they did not call us during the week, to say, that they had too much on their hands. But solution were, that now my wife is driving around in a borrowed stationcar from them, and they would call her, when they knew if they could manage to fix it today. ::) :)
Best
Jesper
If your'e referring to the adjustment of the wheels and the replacement of the upper front suspension joints (dont know what it's called in english) at the repair shop in Roskilde, well my wife has just brought it there today, to be fixed. (I am busy working long hours at the moment, and well.. she also likes driving murena Weeeeheee... ;D)
The only thing was, the guy being there, asked if she could come back another day, and of course she went "WHAT"? :o
We had a deal, so she basically was quite surprised, that they did not call us during the week, to say, that they had too much on their hands. But solution were, that now my wife is driving around in a borrowed stationcar from them, and they would call her, when they knew if they could manage to fix it today. ::) :)
Best
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: Anders Dinsen on June 27, 2007, 11:35:58 am
Hej Jesper
Don't expect too much from them... they are excellent mechanics, but not fast and not the best planners in the world ;)
I know... bad match for us busy people, but there's only very few mechanics I trust well enough to allow them to work on my car. Flemming is one of them.
You'll get over it!
- Anders
Don't expect too much from them... they are excellent mechanics, but not fast and not the best planners in the world ;)
I know... bad match for us busy people, but there's only very few mechanics I trust well enough to allow them to work on my car. Flemming is one of them.
You'll get over it!
- Anders
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 27, 2007, 02:49:11 pm
I will, Anders,
And if you guys use them, I'll use them. I'm shure your'e right about quality. ;D
And if you guys use them, I'll use them. I'm shure your'e right about quality. ;D
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on June 27, 2007, 03:49:04 pm
And then , of cause , we are some who fix our own cars!! 8)
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 27, 2007, 04:23:15 pm
I think I have spent about 200 hours over the winter on this baby (for instance, re-building the electrical system myself, taking the car apart for a thorough paint-job etc.), so I guess it's okay to have somebody else spending approx. 2 hours on it, while I'm doing crunch-time at work :P
Well, call me a sinner ;D
I think I will have a hard time selling this, when the v6 gets on its feet.
Best, Jesper
Well, call me a sinner ;D
I think I will have a hard time selling this, when the v6 gets on its feet.
Best, Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on June 27, 2007, 04:30:32 pm
And before Anders and I have gotten a drive around the neighborhood we wont LET you sell it :)
By the way... do you have any idea whats the gas mileage is with the v6?
By the way... do you have any idea whats the gas mileage is with the v6?
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on June 27, 2007, 05:51:20 pm
I think i remember, that when my wife and I, drove it home from Holland, it did about 8-9km pr.liter, but that was mostly on the Autobahn. If you driver it hard or in the city, you get about 6km/Liter i think.
But i'm not shure, its been a long time since it was up and running.
Best,
Jesper
But i'm not shure, its been a long time since it was up and running.
Best,
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on November 18, 2007, 01:37:38 pm
Think its time for an update!!
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on November 18, 2007, 02:32:46 pm
8) So you think it's time? 8)
The buddha miniature figure that sat on the v6 dashboard has left the car. Hopefully this will bring some luck to the project.
It's now in our window sill in our apartment, and it looks like it has finally understood, that we are the new owners of the car. So it has gotten a new chance to protect our famliy, but car is out of its responsibility now. ;D
Well, concerning the v6, there is no v6 in that murena anymore. :o
In summer, Novitec took out the old v6, and we found that, it was beyond repair. BIIG HOLE in one of the cylinderwalls, two crushed pistons, and a bend pistonrod.
Pics of the mayhem
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_cylinderwall_hole.jpg)
Hole in cylinderwall
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_cylinder_head.jpg)
Look at the pounding :-\
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_broken_piston_rod.jpg)
Do I need to comment on this? :-X
Reason why the engine died is still unknown.
Danish Alpfa Romeo specialist, Novitec then tried to get a new v6 engine, but I decided it would be better to ship the car to Carjoy, and let them build a new engine, and use the spare parts, because they had done some modifications to the engine, that if Novitec should do the same, it would all become too expensive. (labour!) But Novitec was still very kind, and the price of the summer visit was kept down due to the situation. THANK YOU Novitec (good guys).
So I filled up the v6car with engine parts (had to take out one seat). Lazslo from Carjoy came with a broken leg :o (drove a car with automatic gear ;D), and picked it up (really nice guy). So now my beloved v6murena is finally having a heart transplant.
But it means that until now, the project has been delayed for 1 year :'( :'( :'(. But luckilly we have the white one, and it drives like SUPERMAN! flies 8) 8) 8).
I have just replaced driveshafts (no more banging noises when in going out of gear), replaced one sad trailing arm (a lot of rust), and got new springs (the dampers were fine). The list of repairs is becoming longer, and it feels good to know, that the car is in a very good condition.
Added some pics:
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/22_back_repair.jpg)
New shafts, springs, trailing arm...
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/22_after_balancing.jpg)
As it is now (I think I have to sell it, if I get the v6 registered :'()
Well, my 2.2 runs smoothly, so me and my wife do not complaint about having to wait for the big brother to come home from Holland. Well, okay I miss it of course, but we can live with the situation.
My wife loves the power and noise of the 2.2, and our newborn baby is having the middle seat for himself, and loves it.
I will keep you updated...
Best regards,
Jesper
The buddha miniature figure that sat on the v6 dashboard has left the car. Hopefully this will bring some luck to the project.
It's now in our window sill in our apartment, and it looks like it has finally understood, that we are the new owners of the car. So it has gotten a new chance to protect our famliy, but car is out of its responsibility now. ;D
Well, concerning the v6, there is no v6 in that murena anymore. :o
In summer, Novitec took out the old v6, and we found that, it was beyond repair. BIIG HOLE in one of the cylinderwalls, two crushed pistons, and a bend pistonrod.
Pics of the mayhem
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_cylinderwall_hole.jpg)
Hole in cylinderwall
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_cylinder_head.jpg)
Look at the pounding :-\
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/v6_broken_piston_rod.jpg)
Do I need to comment on this? :-X
Reason why the engine died is still unknown.
Danish Alpfa Romeo specialist, Novitec then tried to get a new v6 engine, but I decided it would be better to ship the car to Carjoy, and let them build a new engine, and use the spare parts, because they had done some modifications to the engine, that if Novitec should do the same, it would all become too expensive. (labour!) But Novitec was still very kind, and the price of the summer visit was kept down due to the situation. THANK YOU Novitec (good guys).
So I filled up the v6car with engine parts (had to take out one seat). Lazslo from Carjoy came with a broken leg :o (drove a car with automatic gear ;D), and picked it up (really nice guy). So now my beloved v6murena is finally having a heart transplant.
But it means that until now, the project has been delayed for 1 year :'( :'( :'(. But luckilly we have the white one, and it drives like SUPERMAN! flies 8) 8) 8).
I have just replaced driveshafts (no more banging noises when in going out of gear), replaced one sad trailing arm (a lot of rust), and got new springs (the dampers were fine). The list of repairs is becoming longer, and it feels good to know, that the car is in a very good condition.
Added some pics:
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/22_back_repair.jpg)
New shafts, springs, trailing arm...
(http://natkat.dk/matramurena/assets/22_after_balancing.jpg)
As it is now (I think I have to sell it, if I get the v6 registered :'()
Well, my 2.2 runs smoothly, so me and my wife do not complaint about having to wait for the big brother to come home from Holland. Well, okay I miss it of course, but we can live with the situation.
My wife loves the power and noise of the 2.2, and our newborn baby is having the middle seat for himself, and loves it.
I will keep you updated...
Best regards,
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: krede on November 18, 2007, 06:00:43 pm
I Njesper thanks for the update!! and congratulations !!(with the baby girl... not the broken engine :) )
But nice to hear that the you are having it fixed are not abandoning the car as some people would.
But isn't it terribly expensive to have the car picked up and transported all the way to Holland?..
Have you found anything about the "legal" issues regarding the v6/brakes modification ?
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In summer, Novitec took out the old v6, and we found that, it was beyond repair. BIIG HOLE in one of the cylinderwalls, two crushed pistons, and a bend pistonrod
Auch!! sounds like a pretty spectacular engine failure!!But nice to hear that the you are having it fixed are not abandoning the car as some people would.
But isn't it terribly expensive to have the car picked up and transported all the way to Holland?..
Have you found anything about the "legal" issues regarding the v6/brakes modification ?
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on November 20, 2007, 01:31:02 pm
Well, it's a baby boy ;D but thanks anyways.
I will post some pics soon.
By the way, to all of you wifes out there: YES MURENA IS A FAMILY CAR (at least if you only have one kid hehe)
best
Jesper
I will post some pics soon.
By the way, to all of you wifes out there: YES MURENA IS A FAMILY CAR (at least if you only have one kid hehe)
best
Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on November 22, 2007, 01:16:02 am
Pics added (look at the former post on page 2).
Regarding legal issues concerning v6/brakes: Well no news. I have decided to have the engine rebuild, then I will drive it home from Holland, then I will Contact authorities again..
They say, that a top speed / brake test should cover the last "unknowns". Remember, the car has already been approved in Holland (another EU country, so I cannot see why it should not be possible to get it legally registered in Denmark. ) :)
I'll keep you posted, when I have news about the progress of the v6, I promise. I am just as excited 8)
Best, Jesper
Regarding legal issues concerning v6/brakes: Well no news. I have decided to have the engine rebuild, then I will drive it home from Holland, then I will Contact authorities again..
They say, that a top speed / brake test should cover the last "unknowns". Remember, the car has already been approved in Holland (another EU country, so I cannot see why it should not be possible to get it legally registered in Denmark. ) :)
I'll keep you posted, when I have news about the progress of the v6, I promise. I am just as excited 8)
Best, Jesper
Title: Re: Jos´old and Jespers new V6.
Post by: njesper on January 20, 2008, 03:07:41 pm
Update: Still waiting for the v6. Sad, but true. They say the engine is in the car. But haven't heard from them for three weeks now. :-[
Anyways, I am putting my other murena for sale. (look in the marketplace forum, if youre interested. ;D)
Best regards,
Jesper
Anyways, I am putting my other murena for sale. (look in the marketplace forum, if youre interested. ;D)
Best regards,
Jesper
