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Each model => Murena => Topic started by: krede on February 17, 2007, 10:52:37 am



Title: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: krede on February 17, 2007, 10:52:37 am
Anybody know where what car they come from?. I could sandblast ans paint mine, but experience tells me that it isnt worth the efford as they will be just at bad in about 6 months :)


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Anders Dinsen on February 17, 2007, 11:07:37 am
I think they are either unique to the Murena or shared with a car no longer in production ;)

I expect to pay for mine to be professionally sanded and painted, that should last. I'll do it along with the rocker cover as I'd like to have that in Matra-blue ;)

- Anders 8)


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: davidewanprice on March 15, 2007, 08:27:22 pm
My wiper arms are in a bad way, i think they need more than a re-paint, i was washing the car a while back and the wind deflector snapped off and now ive lost it, since then ive found they're are a bit loose, especially at speed. Are there any close matches or originals available anywhere?


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Lennart Sorth on March 17, 2007, 04:00:02 pm
i've found they're are a bit loose, especially at speed.
First of all - you really *need* the wind deflector on the driver-side blade at anything over 100km/h.
You also need good earth connections around the dashboard - I thought my windscreen wiper motor had almost gone, when I realized it was all down to lack of lubrication *and* poor earth connections.  If this is not in good order, the arms will struggle to come back down, once the wind has helped them up :)

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Are there any close matches or originals available anywhere?

I have successfully used standard wiperblades with built in deflectors - you just need to find some which match the arm. I think I just located a Talbot blade, and went have a look. The one I ended up with is slightly longer than standard, and has a full length deflector. When I'm near my garage again, I'll see if I can find the exact type I found usable.

The arms themselves however are fairly easy to sand down, and repaint. I gave mine a thin layer of cold galvanizing spray, before spraying them glossy black. The glossy I think helps them stay clan and dry. (well, when its not raining, of course :) )

My paintwork may not last for ages, but then again, its easy to redo.

/Lennart


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: davidewanprice on March 17, 2007, 07:00:33 pm
Its starting to sound like a good earth is the key to a few things on this car of mine, but as a novice how whould i know where to look?


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Lennart Sorth on March 17, 2007, 11:20:32 pm
Its starting to sound like a good earth is the key to a few things
hehe - yes. In many cases "The French Connection"  is the problem. :)

be it earth, or connections in general.

I have found that the most of the connectors on the car outside the cabin, are heavily corroded, and if you can get them apart at all, they most often crumble.

Every single one of them needs attention, - but then again, there aren't that many.

The edge connectors on the fuse-board is of the same type, and as the fuse-board is only single-sided, those are a common problem as well.

On the front of the "torpedo" - the wall separating the cabin from the front , there is a connector for the wiper motor and (I think) the interior fan. This one is often pretty corroded.

Then there are a few earth-points, - one on the chassis running straight from the battery, another near your left knee while driving (behind the carpet) and then one from the engine-block - forgot where (as my car has a non-original engine). I think it runs from the gearbox to the chassis in the left hand side.

/Lennart


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Michael on April 18, 2007, 02:14:52 pm
 ;)
Well some people say i made a E-30 BMW to my Murena, but you can mount the E-30 arms directly on shaft it has the same profile. The arms are little bit shorter than the original ones, but they work.
Also it is a good idea to take the cover from the passenger axis from the E-30 they keep the water away.
http://www.isionline.de/~mifaust/restauration/restauration3.html (http://www.isionline.de/~mifaust/restauration/restauration3.html)

Kind regards

Michael


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: macaroni on April 18, 2007, 03:36:59 pm
There is guy selling 5 arms on ebay at the mo, from Germany.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110116333120&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:UK:1


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: davidewanprice on April 19, 2007, 04:11:32 pm
Ive ended up buying some new ones from Will, but thanks to everyone for their input...


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: krede on May 08, 2007, 08:39:08 pm
I just went through some of the papers I got along with my car.. says that the wiper arms can be replaced with Citroen part no 9558 9142


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: lewisman on February 02, 2008, 05:32:39 pm
I just went through some of the papers I got along with my car.. says that the wiper arms can be replaced with Citroen part no 9558 9142
Anyone know what model of Citroen?


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: valross on February 02, 2008, 06:27:19 pm
95 589 142 is a wiper arm for a CitroŽn BX

Lasse


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: krede on February 02, 2008, 06:39:32 pm
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95 589 142 is a wiper arm for a CitroŽn BX

Hmmmm.... Didn't the BX use a Mono wiper ?... would have thought those were to big to fit TWO on a murena.
Maybe its wrong what I have in the papers then....
Might go to a scrap yard and get a bx wiper just to test..


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: valross on February 02, 2008, 06:45:32 pm
Didn't the BX use a Mono wiper ?.

Yes, the BX has just one long wiper arm. It should be too long for a Murena :-\

Lasse


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: lewisman on February 02, 2008, 06:57:44 pm
I was thinking of buying the flat type wiper blades but they don't list the murena and the packs are sealed.


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: roy4matra on February 02, 2008, 08:15:37 pm
Didn't the BX use a Mono wiper ?.

Yes, the BX has just one long wiper arm. It should be too long for a Murena :-\

Lasse

No it is not.  And the reason the Citroen one is correct is that it is straight the whole length, like the originals. (most wiper arms have a crank to either left or right depending on the side of the car they sweep from)  I fitted two BX arms many years ago complete with 500mm blades and these were a perfect replacement for the originals - not the same exactly but they fit and work correctly.  Just make sure you fit a spoiler blade on the drivers side.  Bosch sell twin wiper kits that have one spoiler and one plain blade which are just right.

It was probably this information about wiper arms that many club members have been given when they join our club, that you have in those papers with your car Christian.

Roy


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: krede on February 02, 2008, 08:24:28 pm
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It was probably this information about wiper arms that many club members have been given when they join our club, that you have in those papers with your car Christian.

Indeed it is. :)
I got a bunch of papers along when I bought the car.... best of witch are the issues of "greasy fingernails"... very interesting reading!    :)


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Oetker on February 02, 2008, 08:50:09 pm
I bought this at the Matradealer, with spoiler

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2a9ehzc.jpg)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/33093di.jpg)

(http://i30.tinypic.com/2rf4pw4.jpg)

I think it says it all.

Edit

Sorry I saw it is not about the blades.
Saw someone fitted from a Opel rekord 1700.
They are chrome...not my stile


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Rayburn on January 11, 2016, 07:47:08 pm
Apologies for the resurrection of an old thread!

I am restoring a 1.6 that has what I think are the original bayonet type wiper arms. New blades only seem to come prepared for the 'universal' hook type arms. Can anyone suggest where I might get adapters? Or, if it best to replace the arms, what modern arms fit best (BX and LHD Ka arms will be difficult in the UK I think)?

If all else fails I suppose I could weld hooks onto the old arms!

Any help would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Oetker on January 11, 2016, 08:47:25 pm
The clips that fit best are from Valeo number 578077
Still to find in some carshops.
Sold in blisters 10 pcs for a few GBP
Fitted on
Citroen: LN-LNA-GS-Visa-VisaIIen C15. Peugeot 104-204-304-305-505-J7 en J9. Renault R4-R5-R6-R12-R14 en R16. en voor Talbot: Horizon-Samba according to my doc





Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Gib on January 12, 2016, 11:33:05 am
I am in the same boat but getting some help from a work mate in Holland who will get me some LHD KA arms when he next goes to the scrap yard. PM me and I can ask him to get 2 sets.


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Oetker on January 13, 2016, 07:52:53 am
Still for sale here.
Price for 10 pcs
Maybe they ship abroad but if you have a mate in Holland  ;)

http://www.mijnautoonderdelen.nl/ruitenwisserblad-adapter-valeo-578077.html


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Jon Weywadt on January 13, 2016, 01:10:07 pm
Still for sale here.
Price for 10 pcs
Maybe they ship abroad but if you have a mate in Holland  ;)

http://www.mijnautoonderdelen.nl/ruitenwisserblad-adapter-valeo-578077.html
I have never had any luck with the type of wiper shown in that add. There simply isn't enough tension in the wiper arm to pull it fully flat against the wind shield, resulting in streaks. :(
Usually there are several different adapters included when I buy new wiper blades. I have never not been able to fit them to the original wiper arm.
Roy mentions that the original wiper arm are straight. I put a bend in mine because I found that it obscured the view.  Check out my post about that here: http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,1423.0.html (http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php/topic,1423.0.html)


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Rayburn on January 13, 2016, 07:39:53 pm
Thanks for all the responses and advice everyone.

I have ordered some of the Valeo adapters because I am close being MoT-ready and so I need the quickest solution.

Gib - thanks for your offer of help - I may be in touch if the adapter route fails.


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Gib on January 15, 2016, 09:20:46 am
My man Jeffry ( maintenance apprentice but owns an ST220 and a MKII Escort) is going scrapyard hunting for Ka windscreen wipers as soon as he can. I said as long as they are below 10-15 Euro for a pair and in good nick just get them. SO hopefully in the next few weeks I should have a couple of pairs which can be sent around the UK.
Has any one replaced the spindle/ arm, mine is pretty badly corroded so I may look at taking it apart and replacing the spindle for a Ka one. Any one BTDT????


Title: Re: Windscreen wiper arms
Post by: Jon Weywadt on January 15, 2016, 12:35:50 pm
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Has any one replaced the spindle/ arm, mine is pretty badly corroded so I may look at taking it apart and replacing the spindle for a Ka one. Any one BTDT????

Getting to where you can take the spindle arm out is quite a job. I requires you to remove the brake amplifier/master cylinder, then drilling out the pop rivets of the metal plates on the firewall and removing them. Even then it would be good with a universal joint on your wrists  :D
But if your spindle arm is worn so water can seep down past it, it probably will be worth the effort. The mechanism behind the wall is connected via ball joints like the ones in the gear linkage. If the spindles rust to the point where they are hard to turn, then the joint is known to pop off the motor arm.  >:( (Happened to Philbert)