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Murena radiator removal - hints and tips?

Started by macaroni, August 11, 2008, 02:24:59 PM

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Re: Murena radiator removal - hints and tips?
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August 03, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Hi Pete
I have taken some pictures showing the mechanism at both ends with the bonnet catch end showing the inhibitor on an off and the P clips in place, I have replaced the inner cable with stainless steel mig wire and it seems to OK. I hope the photographs are of some help.

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August 03, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Thanks John, that was exactly what I was after.  I've been looking into the clips and I found these on the site you recommended, http://www.bresco.com/index.html.  They are reference 34730P and look the right sort of shape, but unfortunately no dimensions are given on the website so I cannot be sure.  I have enough applications on my car for it to be worth buying a pack if they would fit.  Does anyone have any views on whether these clips are the correct ones?

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August 03, 2009, 08:09:06 PM
If you look closely at the first picture the green P clip is one of the Bresco clips; it did require a bit of careful tweaking but worked OK.

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September 21, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
The bonnet lock mechanism should have a pivoting bar that in one position blocks the bonnet release from operating, and when pivoted the other way allows it to work.  So first thing is - is this still fitted?
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Just opened up the bonnet catch and no it's not!!! :'(

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October 12, 2009, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: JL on July 30, 2009, 08:40:41 PM
When you are getting fed up with rubbing down bodywork the mind wanders to anything that may be more interesting so I also decided to get the radiator sorted.

The alloy core did not look too bad apart from the bottom where the lower fan mount was quite corroded. A local radiator specialist said he would recore the radiator with a conventional brass/copper core (my preferred choice) for £85.00 plus the VAT. He also replaced the top and bottom frames with ones that had captive nuts, I made up a couple of brackets and refitted the original fan.

I will now refit the radiator as soon as I have found some stainless steel wire to make a new cable for the headlight inhibitor mechanism. All more interesting than rubbing down that bodywork!

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I just tried to order a new radiator from Kühlerbau Neu-Ulm GmbH. They show it on their web shop for €105, but they replied that it is no longer available.  :(

Does any of you know where it can be purchased still. Preferably cheaper than Simons, who want €260 for it. >:(

Alternative is to have it recored. But is that possiblle when the caps are plastic as they seem to be on mine?
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October 12, 2009, 10:49:14 AM
Radiators with plastic ends can have a replacement core fitted.

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October 26, 2009, 08:19:04 AM Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 08:21:42 AM by Oetker
Now I have bought a Visa radiator for little money, and as far as I can see it the modification is not to difficult.
20 years dust, but he, I paid €25.-



The inside is nothing wrong.


The thermocontact is also M22 like the Murena.


Comparing the radiator with the original, it is the same, but you need to close 1 small inlet and find a solution to mount the ventilator.
This is not very difficult.

picture Godfried fellowmember www.matramania.be

Good alternative for the murena radiator.
The Visa GTI and diesel radiator is different and does not fit, so be carefull if you gonna do this to look for the right one.
I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
Murena 2.2 Red 1982.(sold) Murena 1.6 1981 black on places. (for sale). Nissan Leaf 2017. Renault Twingo Quickshift 2006.

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October 26, 2009, 08:37:23 AM
That new Radiator looks sweet.  :D

What is a "Visa" though. Can you tell me what car it is on and what partnumber it has? And if there are more where yours came from?  ;)

Mounting hte ventilator should not be a problem. If necessary there are kits with strips that go through the radiator and hold the ventilator in place.

What  and where is the small inlet you are talking about? The original has a drain on the bottom left side and an air bleed on the top right side, that connects to the expansion tank in the engine compartment.

Everything looks the same, except for the missing ventilator brackets.
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October 26, 2009, 08:50:21 AM Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 08:52:08 AM by Oetker
It is for all Citroen Visa from 1980-1988 except diesel and GTI.
See the pictures and you wil see the small pipe on the left wich needs to be closed.
This radiators are found from €70 to €150.
Just look around to find a bargain.
I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
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October 26, 2009, 09:20:52 AM
List of cars where they are mounted for sure according to my documentation..
I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
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October 26, 2009, 10:38:36 AM
Super. Thanks. :) :)
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November 10, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
Hi Oetker.

Can you tell me if the Visa radiator you bought has a model number like this: MO75 BM309  ??? ???

I can find this model pretty cheap.

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November 10, 2009, 03:07:35 PM
Im my car bible BM309 is the right one.
Can't find MO75
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Re: Murena radiator removal - hints and tips?
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November 10, 2009, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: Jon Weywadt on November 10, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
I can find this model pretty cheap.

More than one? I would be interested in getting one too.

/Anders
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November 10, 2009, 10:15:39 PM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on November 10, 2009, 04:20:51 PM

More than one? I would be interested in getting one too.

/Anders
Hi anders.

2 actually according to the list. I will call them tomorrow, but it may be an outdated offer. However, if true, they sell them for 309,00 DKr. (+vat ??) If they have them I will order both immediately and we can split the shipping.
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