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andyowl
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 03:31:59 pm » |
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Yes thank you, I have seen this thread and followed it with interest. Nice engineering and colours!
But, as someone else has said, I don't think it is a Bagheera engine bay. The distributor location is unusual and the rocker cover is not the same. Loads of space where the DCOE carb is located which I think is where the Bagheera fuel tank is fitted.
Thanks anyway.
Andy
PS I you think Bagheera spares are sometimes expensive try this.. Lamborghini Urraco, 33 years old, replacement clutch pressure plate, if you can find one, is £2,000. This does not include the friction disc nor the release bearing which are an extra £750. Time to go into manufacture I think. Plus freight and VAT of course. Anyone know a good clutch repairer?
AMO
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andyowl
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 10:38:49 am » |
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Thanks for these sites. I have followed them up as follows:- http://www.bcsc.co.uk/info/superch.html - Shorrock Supercharger Catalogue. Useful information but the phone numbers no longer work and emails have not been answered. http://www.mg-tabc.org/supercharger/Shorrock_ABC.pdf - some basics. I cannot get this site to open. Did you succeed? http://www.shorrocksuperchargers.co.uk/ - more technical data. This one is sad too. The author Ian Bishop died of cancer in June this year. The site was designed by his friend as a memorial to his enthusiasm and he would like to find someone to take over the work. I have registered an interest with the site designer and said I would like to contribute when I have some data from my own Shorrock Project. I am now committed to have our competition Matra-Simca-Shorrock Bagheera on the Matra Club stand at the National Exhibition Centre Classic Car show in November and have offered rides to club members at our December meeting in Kent. We are hoping to have several Matra competition cars there (RB Djet, Murena 2.2 Sprint/Hill Climb, Murena-Zetec conversion, Murena 1.6, and two Bagheeras). No going back now! All Matristi are of course very welcome to join us at both events! More info follows soon Andy Owler
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Lanng
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 11:07:11 am » |
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Hi Andy No prob with the http://www.mg-tabc.org/supercharger/Shorrock_ABC.pdf - I downloaded it, so drop me an email and I will send you the pdf. Sorry to hear about Mr. Bishop - and kudos for following up on his work. Looking forward to hear more about the supercharger project. Quick question - As I understand; the large Shorrock supercharger works best between 3500rpm and 5000rpm. Is the not going to be an issue with the Bagherra engiens as they are high rpm based? and is it possible to get the charger to kick in at lower rpm. Reason for asking is my Saab 900 T16S (1991) has the "new" mitsu turbo on it which starts at 2500rpm and dies at 4000rpm - its a quick spooling turbo but loosing all the power at 4000rpm and only having a 1500rpm boost window is a bit small for my liking. AND if the Bagheerra Shorrock get the same "turbo kick" as the old Saab - its going to be REALLY fun to drive /// Lanng
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2009, 02:20:08 pm » |
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Hi Andy und AndersThe idea was to find a Bagherra and use it for Classic Hill Climb, Classic Rally etc etc. So because of the underpowered engine in the Bagherra the supercharger sounded like the way to go - as regulations requires "old school" mods in order to pass. However because of resent personal events everything has been put on hold - so no Classic Hill Climb or Bagherra this year I even got acces to a nice warm garage with all the tools you could ever need for free. To Andy - who about changing the compression and use a waterjet injection system. Saab used them on the Saab 900 Turbo (1987-1989; I think) and you can still get the AquaMist system for 500£ in Sweden. I know this relates more to detonation in the combustion chamber - but if it works on a turbo why not on a SuperCharger. /// Lanng
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Anders Dinsen
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 07:59:41 pm » |
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I appreciate that modern blowers are smaller and lighter. If/when I destroy the blower I have I will certainly look around for alternatives but at the moment I want to try the device I already have and think that I understand.
My comment was not raised towards you, Andy, I'm sure you have an excellent blower there, but if people "just" want to tune their engine, a modern blower should be considered. The idea was to find a Bagherra and use it for Classic Hill Climb, Classic Rally etc etc. So because of the underpowered engine in the Bagherra the supercharger sounded like the way to go - as regulations requires "old school" mods in order to pass.
Old school yes, but as I read the hill climb rules here, they have to be homologated too. Or am I missing something there? However because of resent personal events everything has been put on hold - so no Classic Hill Climb or Bagherra this year I even got acces to a nice warm garage with all the tools you could ever need for free. Sorry to hear that. If you decide to scrap the idea completely, then I think we're all happy you shared the idea with us and stimulated the discussion! But I hope it works out in the end! /Anders
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