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Started by krede, January 12, 2008, 01:29:43 PM

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New Clutch?
January 12, 2008, 01:29:43 PM
I have recently noticed that  my clutch pedal has to go very far down to engage, and it's become hard to get some of the gears.
this has happened in a fairly short period of time, so at first I suspected a leak , but it looks ok...

New Clutch? or can it be adjusted?

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January 12, 2008, 02:30:03 PM
The clutch is self adjusting. There might be air in the clutch line.
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January 12, 2008, 04:42:06 PM
I agree with Bart... try bleeding it. But it could also be a seal in the master or slave cylinders - depending on which one is worn it may or may not leak.
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January 12, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
So.. all a sudden air can sneak its way into the system?

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January 12, 2008, 06:04:26 PM
I have experienced the same problem a few years ago, the problem was the slave cylinder. This should be easy and cheep to fix, but on my Murena the slave cylinder was EXTREMELY difficult to dismount. The slave cylinder is placed in a "tube" in the casting of the bell house and after 25 year of corrosion the two items were like welded together.

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January 12, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
Did you fit a new slave cylinder? or is there a repair kit available ?

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January 12, 2008, 07:43:24 PM
Once i had a funny thing with my slave cilinder. That was with the 1.9 engine with the original 1.6 matra slave cilinder. It got air in the system when i rev over 5000 rpm. Whenever the engine was hot or cold, just rev it over 5000 and instandly air. Then i bleed it and get lots of bubbles. After i bleed it i could drive 1000's of miles (1600's of km ;)) without any trouble, as long i keep the revs below the magic 5000rpm.

It happened several times, so i am very sure when it appear. i just can't explain it.
after i put a new seal in the slave cilinder it was solved.
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January 12, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
he he... it could very well be...
The problem has only been evident since I got my car back with throttlebodies fitted... and to be honest.. it has done 5000 rpm (and above) A LOT more often since then :)

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January 12, 2008, 08:21:14 PM
I had the same trouble exactly as Bart_Matra and Matra_Hans, and as you know, it was Your Car!!! 4500rpm was the magic figure for this 2.2 engine. A new clutch slave cylinder cured it, but looks like it's back again. Try a new seal, the slave cylinder is not very old. It is weird though isn't it?  ???

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January 12, 2008, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph2 on January 12, 2008, 08:21:14 PM
I had the same trouble exactly as Bart_Matra and Matra_Hans, and as you know, it was Your Car!!! 4500rpm was the magic figure for this 2.2 engine. A new clutch slave cylinder cured it, but looks like it's back again. Try a new seal, the slave cylinder is not very old. It is weird though isn't it?  ???

Yeiks!!!
you weren't supposed to find out that I reved the old girl that hard!    ;D

So air in the system then...

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January 12, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Just put a wooden block under the accelerator ;D
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January 12, 2008, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bart_Maztra on January 12, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Just put a wooden block under the accelerator ;D

Now where's the fun in that?   ???

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January 12, 2008, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: Bart_Maztra on January 12, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Just put a wooden block under the accelerator ;D

That will improve fuel consumption too :D
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January 12, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
and a wooden block under the clutch pedal. No more spongyness :D
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January 12, 2008, 08:38:57 PM
Let her rip Krede it's how it's meant to be!!!!

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