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krede
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2008, 05:20:48 pm »

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without the trunk you can fit almost everything
Not really!.. In fact it's the "length" of the engine gearbox that's deciding factor more then the its "girth", since you can only fit so much between the rear suspension arms..... the left hand side propeller shaft very short and at a pretty steep angle with the standard 2.2 instalment. 
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2008, 12:27:15 pm »

As I also have Tagora SX I must say that this engine is absolutely GREAT! Brutal power of nearly 170PS and huge torque moment makes this car very very fast. I can't imagine what will happend if they used it for Murena which is cca 300kg lighter - it had to be a monster. This engine is that brutal also thanks to 2 triple carbs and not by injection (which also calculates ratio between power/consumation/emissions).
But I think that there is not enough space for it and also carbs must be fited longitudaly to work properly, and if you put the engine behind the rear axle, you got the biggest disadvantage of all Alpines - engine at the rear. Maybe it's better than in front of the car, but not better than in the middle - like in the Murena.
Turbo conversions are also very powerfull, but don't want to imagine any problem on the way, to many changes from my point of view. The best and technicaly clearest reason to have nearly 200PS was Murena 4S - with 16 valve technology, but nobody is able to remake this  Sad
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2008, 12:40:24 pm »



Hallo
Here is 'link to a murena with Renault V6 build by politechnic in 1986


http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12689

 Regards Eric

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 There are 3 cars - Alpine, Venturi and the 3rd is what? Its engine bay, rear glass, three seats - it's looking like Murena, but the body conversion hides all Murena shapes, do You know something more about this car or about this article? Which engine is in this Murena, it looks very compact, is it an engine from V6 Alpine?
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2008, 03:53:01 pm »

 Hallo

On the next links you can see it was a Murena, only in a new body, Politecnic
had plans to build it, but the stop the project.
It had the same engine as the Alpine.


http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12689
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12690
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12691
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12692
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12693
http://alpinerenault.free.fr/outils/forum/download.php?id=12694

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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2008, 09:19:43 pm »

The PRV V6 was designed as a V8 - Fuel crisis in 1972 cut off two cylinders, but they kept the 90 degree angle design - it is a lot wider than other genuine V6 engines.

A more modern engine is VW VR6, which from a design point of view is compact and has the exhaust manifold rear.
The gearbox is controlled by wire.
174 HP will barely be within no-trouble-zone, but the 140 HP version from the VW Transporter might work. I belive the difference is only in the ECU.

They are quite cheap on eBay.

Installation and legislation are the expensive and difficult parts.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2008, 08:48:19 pm »

Hey guys.. found this link on the 505 turbo forum...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dMh1bZLJU

Normal aspirated pvr v6!!
I'd like to withdraw my previous statement.. I guess the pvr can be made to go PLENTY fast! Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2008, 07:38:53 am »


I'd like to withdraw my previous statement.. I guess the pvr can be made to go PLENTY fast! Smiley

Yes it can!
I have a CitroŽn XM V6.24 with a PVR ZP engine of 2975 cc wich gives 200PS standard without turbo. The only changes Iīve done is a bigger exhaust and that made a big improvement in performance.
Itīs a very big car but it does 0-100 km/h in less than 8 seconds and has a top speed of over 240.
And unlike the Alpine the XM can go fast even if the road is not straight Wink
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2008, 11:21:32 am »

He he yes.. there are a a few  clips on youtube of Alpines loosing the rear spinning.
Im sure they can be driven fast enough, but it takes skill.. and guts.... I have neither!.. so Ill stick with my murena  Grin
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