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Alfistipohjoosesta
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« on: November 13, 2010, 08:37:21 pm »

That Espace is coil pack. Front cylinderhead and only one united unit. We read obd+computer values and there is time how long is fire time. One unit but three coil, 1 and 3 is 0-100 ms but 2 is +150ms bigger other. If 1 and 3 is 50ms then 2 is 200ms. We clear vault memory and i clean oil what leak out oilcap. Oilcap under sparkplug hole is full oil. And that ms time difference now +50ms. What value or sensor act fire time?


Or try translation Finland (finish?) in your language:
Sama suomeksi jos Google kääntäjä ymmärtäisi paremmin.

Espacessa on kolme sytytyspuolaa mutta ne on valettu yhdeksi kappaleeksi. Työkaverini vikakoodien lukulaitteella huomasimme että puolat on numeroitu 1-3 ja 2 puolaksi numeroidun korjattu sytytysaika on eri kuin 1 ja 3 puolan. Sytytysaika ero oli n.150ms. Kun puhdistimme vikamuistin  ja poistin sytytystulpan kolossa olleen öljyn, joka on vuotanut öljyntäyttökorkista, väheni sytytysero n.50ms. Mikä tunnistin tai arvo muuttaa tuota sytytysaikaa puolakohtaisesti? Tuon "remontin" jälkeen polttoaineen kulutus väheni n.2l/100km
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 08:09:39 am »

I don't know what the correct time is, but it sounds like the computer has compensated for the bad spark by increasing dwell.

You may want to replace the coil after this has happened.
It's not an uncommon problem, by the way.

/Anders
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Alfistipohjoosesta
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 10:03:25 am »

OK. Thanks. This model is very unusual in Finland, official Renault agent not import that model. All specimens is private person imported.
This mean spare part is hard find. If somebody give webshop adres or coilpack order number this give big help.


And interest, how testcomputer number coil. Is 1-2-3 (i mean visual when you look coilpack) or someting else?
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 03:01:06 pm »

We have the same situation here in Denmark, where Renault however does carry some stock of Espace spares, but only at ridiculous prices. I have never come across a second source of the Espace V6 24v coil pack, I'm afraid, but if you want I may be able to help get my parallel importing Renault parts dealer here in Denmark to send one to you in Finland. He's usually 50-30% cheaper.

http://www.birkegaardens-autodele.dk/

/Anders
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 09:35:50 am »

Its that right? : http://www.lambdasensor02.com/PartDetails.aspx?s_pc=PC9040&s_vid=
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2010, 03:30:27 pm »


Yes, it looks correct!
Well spotted.

/Anders
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 06:08:36 pm »

Hi, if you need spares try ebay.co.uk and search for 'espace breaking' - lots of scrap yards breaking them, just ask for the part you want.  no guarantee of condition mind, but if stuck then it's maybe worth a try?
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 01:04:44 pm »

I change coilpack. New is just same Sagem what older is. Older all primary circut 1,3 Ohm. Secundary circut 12,5 ohm but one secundary circut broken. But spark jump even if ohmmeter not.
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