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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2012, 09:59:30 pm »

I din't try the seals, but in some kit the outer rubber is a tight fit.
Is de inner diameter of the seals around 45 mm?  because that is the size needed.

In the Belgium club we had the speedo cable remade. (25 peaces).
Price was around €27, but sold out at the moment.
There are firms that make one of for around  €50.-
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2012, 10:05:06 pm »

I supposed something like that. It is still small (rubber inside-out in the middle of the photo), but elastic enough to install. I will try this way.

Yes, the kit is for a 45mm piston, so the inner seal fits perfectly. It was chosen from the catalog of the manufacturer. I thought it will be very similar to the original, but the gaiter is quite different.
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2012, 10:12:22 pm »

I heared it before, but it seems to fit OK.
Some members fitted it on a Bagheera with the same questions you had.
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2012, 10:18:19 pm »

Yes, this kit is also recommended for Bagheera...
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 05:16:42 pm »

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It seems I have to change one of the pistons in the front brake calipers. If I know well it is also used in Citroen Visa and AX
==========================================================I have that pistons in the front calipers and work excelent.
48 mm and same height.
Of course the new one was visa/104/ax

I tried to find pistons for the front calipers, but available repair kits for Citroens and Peugeots contains different ones. They are longer, 49 and 54mm instead of the original 44mm. Unfortunately it is almost impossible to find used ones here so I had to look for a good replacement. I find one which is used on Opel Ascona B.

Diameter is also 48mm and it is 43,6mm high, but the end is not flat and the groove for the lip of the gaiter is not so broad as the original so some turning was needed (unfortunately I forgot to take a photo of it.)

Now it is almost the same, height is 42,6mm, gaiter fits ok. Hopefully it will work perfectly.
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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 08:44:05 pm »

Some parts are revived and some ready to install... Smiley

Lights have new silvered layer, spotlights' housings and bulb plates newly galvanised. Unfortunately the housings were too rusty, some cavitation left, but after installation it will be invisible...
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« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2012, 08:12:52 am »

Beautiful
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« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2012, 09:00:01 am »

Diameter is also 48mm and it is 43,6mm high, but the end is not flat and the groove for the lip of the gaiter is not so broad as the original so some turning was needed (unfortunately I forgot to take a photo of it.)

Now it is almost the same, height is 42,6mm, gaiter fits ok. Hopefully it will work perfectly.

I was thinking about turning completely new pistons in stainless steel. Before I do I need to figure out if stainless steel has a higher expansion factor than the originals. Would not want the pistons to stick in a hot caliper. Shocked
Do any of you know if this is the case?
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« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2012, 09:34:57 am »

I saw I didn't ad a list of cars where this piston is used on this forum.

Well, better late then never.

CITRO - VISA - 0.6 07.82-03.91
CITRO - VISA - 0.6 09.78-06.88
CITRO - VISA - 1.0 09.84-06.88
CITRO - VISA - 11 E 09.78-06.88
CITRO - VISA - 11 E 07.82-03.91
CITRO - VISA - 11 E 09.78-03.91
CITRO - VISA - II Super X 07.80-06.82
CITRO - VISA - 14 07.84-03.91
CITRO - VISA - 14 GT 03.82-03.87
CITRO - VISA - 14 GT 03.82-03.91
CITRO - VISA Convertible - 11 RE 03.83-10.88
CITRO - LNA - 0.6 07.82-04.85
CITRO - LNA - 0.6 11.78-07.82
CITRO - LNA - 1.1 07.82-04.85
PEUGE - 104 - 0.9 10.72-10.79 01.75
PEUGE - 104 - 0.9 10.79-10.83
PEUGE - 104 - 1.1 08.80-06.88
PEUGE - 104 - 1.1 07.76-08.82
PEUGE - 104 - 1.1 09.78-09.79
PEUGE - 104 - 1.2 08.79-06.83
PEUGE - 104 - 1.4 08.79-06.83
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 0.9 09.73-10.83
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 1.1 08.75-06.80
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 1.1 08.79-06.88
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 1.1 08.79-06.83
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 1.1 09.73-09.79
PEUGE - 104 Coupe - 1.4 08.79-06.84
PEUGE - 304 (_04M_) - 1.4 D (M20) 10.76-10.79
PEUGE - 304 Break (_04D_) - 1.4 D 10.76-10.79
PEUGE - 305 (581A) - 1.3 11.77-09.82
PEUGE - 305 (581A) - 1.3 11.77-09.82
PEUGE - 305 (581A) - 1.5 11.79-09.82
PEUGE - 305 (581A) - 1.5 05.80-09.82
PEUGE - 305 (581A) - 1.5 Diesel 11.77-09.82
PEUGE - 305 Estate (581D) - 1.3 08.80-09.82
PEUGE - 305 Estate (581D) - 1.5 08.80-09.82

The original Peugeot number for the piston = 4448.37

Also the calipers for the front are still for sale.
http://brake-caliper.net/brakecalipers_1100_1980_1985_TALBO_MURENA_brake_caliper.html
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« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2012, 05:08:03 pm »

Thanks for the list, but those are very rare cars here so it is almost impossible to find used pistons.
I checked repair kits with pistons and find one for Citroen Visa and another one for Peugeot 305 (only for models after 1982), but those contain different pistons. As I mentioned length is 49mm and 54mm and other dimensions are also different.
The most similar what  I found is for Zastava, but also longer, 50mm, but all other dimensions are the same.
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« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2012, 09:04:37 pm »

One of my side mirrors was unserviceable. Since I wanted to keep them, I bought a used one as a spare. Fortunately I could replace the broken gears and the missing parts, but I realised that all inner discs have cracks. Probably those are the weakest point of the mechanism because of the metal inserts and the corner of the square hole. I wanted to change them, but only a full repair kit is available so I tried to make it myself.
Since it does not have complicated shape I used a full disc as a cast and made a mould from two component silicone rubber. Next I used epoxy resin to form the new parts. I also made one for "crash test". It seems very tough so hopefully I can extend the life of the mirrors.

Maybe it can help some of you...
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2012, 03:00:50 pm »

Well done.

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« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2012, 01:29:04 pm »

Just a stupid question:
There is a cover on the B pillar between the side windows installed by four pop rivets.
In the original sales brochure (year 1982) the rivets have black heads on a red car. Was it normal?

Since my car was repainted I could not see it...
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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2012, 09:32:36 pm »

In the Belgium club we had the speedo cable remade. (25 peaces).
Price was around €27, but sold out at the moment.
There are firms that make one of for around  €50.-

Could anyone send a photo of the speedo cable which shows the endings?
Mine was damaged when I bought the car. Now I want to have it remanufactured, but I would like to provide a good picture for the expert as an example.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2012, 10:07:52 am »

It took some time but found the pics.
What I didn't find is the spare cable and the end plastic at the gauge side.
It is somewere around here but so much stuff floating around.
If I find I wil provide the extra picture needed.
So far I found this in my archive.

This is gauge side, but there is a bigger plastic to hook it to the gauge.



This is wheelside.


If you mount the cable then start at gaugeside.
It is a struggle to to mount it if wheelside is connected.
You end up with a damaged cable.
Also the cable is just swinging around.
I made a extra mounting point to keep it stable.


Good luck, and if I find the rest of the stuff I will provide the extra picture needed.

Greetz
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Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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