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« on: January 06, 2007, 09:29:05 pm »

Dear friends, I bought 2,2 S Murena (1983) with demounted damaged engine. I finished the renovation of the engine now, and all parts arround (as the carburetors, alternator, etc.) are prepaired. Next weekend I am going to input the engine back into the car, but I am not sure about all water and vacuum pipes. Do You have (or can You make for me) some pictures with details of the engine bay?
I had Murena 2,2 for 4 years and repaired the engine 3times  Roll Eyes but 2,2S is many more complicated, You know Smiley
SCUDERIA MATRA!!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 12:13:45 am »

Hi Michael

Welcome aboard the forum!

I have sent you an e-mail with three pictures which I hope will help. There's not a lot visible from above. You may find some help in the parts catalogue sections on cooling system, carburation etc - e.g. the catalogue available on Simons web site:

http://www.simon-auto.de/matra/englisch/kat_mur.htm

- Anders
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 03:52:02 pm »

Dear Anders, thank You a lot! Something is visible, something not, but thank for Your help, every picture will help me so much. You can see some pictures of my car and my renovation on the:
http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet378715.htm
 
 Best regards, Michal
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 04:46:50 pm »

WOW!! I think I saw that car on ebay some time ago!!..
I must say... VERY nice work so far restoring It!!!
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 06:03:39 pm »

Krede: thank You a lot for Your words, I've found this car on autoscout.de and bought it in Monchen Gladbach / Germany in beginning of June 2006. It's the first and only one Murena 2,2 S in Czech Republic!
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 10:54:34 pm »

Michael, these pictures are shocking. What a great job you have done there, and salutes to you for saving this particular car from the scrap yard. It looks like it was pretty close to going there.

I really hope you will get it running well. Getting the carbs right may be a good challenge now, but I hope you have the necessary hardware to set it up?

You may find this article interesting, though it concerns Bagheera webers, but I think most of Andy's tips are equally useful for any two-carburettor set up: http://www.euronet.nl/~wilaben/bagtip1.html

Cheers,
Anders

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 11:22:39 am »

Hello Anders, thank You a lot for Your compliments. The car was standing there for more than 4 years, because of damaged engine. But I was a big fortune for me, because in may 2006 I have sold my Murena 2,2 (which I bought as a wreck and after 4 years it was looking like new car - one collectioner bought it for his Museum of Sport Cars) and I was thinking what to buy for 5000,-Eur. I was thinking for more than one week, but in the end I decided to buy Murena again! But it didn't make sense to buy "normall" 2,2 again, so I was searching 2,2S. I haven't money to buy some S Murena for 8 - 12000 Eur, so I needed to find a car with engine problem which is easy to repair and will have low price. And at least I wanted never crashed one, only! Really hard job to find one when only 480 units was made  Wink But just in June, I found one for 1500,-Eur on the autoscout.de! And when I came to look at the car, I found that it has the Spax suspension!  Smiley
 So I imported the car into the Czech Rep. and started with renovation. Cylinder head I bought from Jurgen Roterberg (who is the best man for spare parts and my good friend !!! ) in Germany, cylinder block with pistons are from my frined who crashed hard his Tagora, but the engine had cca 5000km after complete renovation. Camshaft was renovated by Fony from Belgium, new followers, valves, valve springs, bearings, piston rods, etc. I bought from Mr.Dobes who has huge stock of spare parts for Chrysler 160/180/2Litres/Tagora and he is renovating these cars for more than 20 years. Renovation of crankshaft and cyl.head was done by one specialist  near Prague. So I think that the engine is now really new and that we made a perfekt job. Costs were: 150,-E for engine block with pistons, 200,-E for cyl.head, cca 200,-E for camshaft renovation, 400,-E for crankshaft and cyl.head renovation, cca 150,-E for next works, and cca 50,- for small parts arround. 40,-E for renovation of alternator and starter.
 At the same time, I demounted wheels (sand blasted them), front spoiler and rear bumper and drove them to the painter. Tomorrow the wheels will be ready and this weekend we will put the engine into the car. Than I will transport it to the electrician, who will control the wholle electrics, control lamps, water cooler fan, batery charging, etc. and will install the alarm system (which is really important in Czech Republic  Angry ).
 Luckily there were mounted brand new brake calipers, brake discs, master brake cylinder in 1999, so brakes don't need the renovation, clutch slave cylinder I have new from Jurgen, and ball joints are looking good at this moment.
 Adjustment of carburetors will be done by some firm which is adjusting motorcycle carburetors.
 So I hope that this spring the car will be finished and I really am looking forward to some Matra meeting in Germany. Are You going to go for some meetings?
 I have one friend who have Chevy Camaro with 330PS engine and he thinks that he can beat my Matra on Most circuit  Grin he he... Two years we were there - me with my 2,2 Murena and he with his old engine 220PS and it was really funny  Cool nobody was able to catch me with Murena on those circuit. I was much faster than Camaro, and also one man with Skoda Octavia RS tried to follow me, but after few corners he was far beyond me. But it took me some time than I learned how to be fast in curves. The biggest mistake is to release the throttle pedal in curve in high speed. You must to hold the same possition or little press and balance it with steering wheel. Than You make a little drifting but You don't leave Your way. When You become afraid and release the throttle, the rear part of the car will go around You and You will slide like on ice.
 But I am looking forward new experiences with Spax suspension. The car is really hard and doesn't make any tilting.
 
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 03:06:17 pm »

Please let me know how that spax suspension is working out for you.
I am still considering what options I have for my murena.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2007, 05:22:21 pm »

Hello Smiley
 I added some new photos of my renovation. You can see them on the http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet378715.htm#bas
Today we implanted the ingine into the car, but we found the problem with bearings of the rear axle. We must to use the press machine to demount the broken bearing from the axle but it was not possible. So we boosted the pressure and in one moment the outer ring went broken and fly away from the machine right to my head! And this is the result:

But my head is very hard Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 04:39:14 pm »

New pictures from my renovation at:
http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet378715.htm#bas

Electric works are done, engine is finished, front spoiler is prepaired. We've allready started the engine and adjusted the right pre-ignition. I drove the car for cca 40km but very carefully, and it seems that everything will be O.K.

I hope that next month it will be done.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 03:12:03 pm »

Next new pictures at:
http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet378715.htm

It's looking like Murena again Smiley
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