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De Tomaso Pantera three seater

Started by Anders Dinsen, October 24, 2007, 10:09:11 PM

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De Tomaso Pantera three seater
October 24, 2007, 10:09:11 PM
I came across a photo of a three seater Pantera prototype today:




Funny to see how this must have been copied from the Bagheera.

More photos here:
http://provamo.com/MysteryCars/Unknown5/Unknown5.asp
http://www.twc.dk/absolutig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=41&text=&imageid=514&box=&shownew=
http://www.twc.dk/absolutig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&imageid=515&text=&categoryid=41&box=&shownew=

The last shows the V6 engine - not quite a Bagheera drive train, I'm afraid ;)

- Anders
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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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October 27, 2007, 07:48:22 PM Last Edit: November 01, 2007, 06:54:35 PM by Lennart Sorth
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on October 24, 2007, 10:09:11 PM
The last shows the V6 engine - not quite a Bagheera drive train, I'm afraid ;)
cool - never knew they did that. - maybe they should have called it the "Bantheera" :-)

I always liked the Pantera for the concept of looking like a supercar, but being made out of parts with a more humble origin - much in the same way as Matra's roadcars.  The Pantera has a bit more power and sound though.

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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 01, 2007, 05:33:13 PM
I like the design of the murena more :) .....though I WOULD like a v6 under the bonnet

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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 01, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
Quote from: krede on November 01, 2007, 05:33:13 PM
I like the design of the murena more :) .....though I WOULD like a v6 under the bonnet

They are very different, the Pantera and the Murena IMO, first there's a decade between them in the design, second the Pantera is far crazier in the design than the almost sensible Murena. Which of course shows that it's of another class, I'm afraid.

But apart from that, I agree. I'd never swap one for my Murena. On the other hand, I like crazy things and I wouldn't mind owning a Pantera - and blow away the kids and their fathers ;) at the boy's schools with something *really* impressive! :D

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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 01, 2007, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on November 01, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
I agree. I'd never swap one for my Murena.
Me neither, - but in the 70'ies I did dream about one day owning a Pantera - but then I saw the Bagheera ... and later the Murena. :-)

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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 01, 2007, 08:53:44 PM
I was also dreaming of a Panthera years back, but then I looked at my bank account!

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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 01, 2007, 09:31:58 PM
Quote from: Matra_Hans on November 01, 2007, 08:53:44 PM
I was also dreaming of a Panthera years back, but then I looked at my bank account!

I'm still looking... it doesn't help :(
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Re: De Tomaso Pantera three seater
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November 06, 2007, 09:18:27 AM
There could be a link between the Bagheera and the three seater De Tomaso. I have just learnt that Alejandro De Tomaso and Lee Iacocca were close friends (a friendship which resulted in the Chrysler TC . When Iacocca moved to Chrysler in 1978, he probably saw the Bagheera - and maybe he told De Tomaso about it. Working in Europe, De Tomaso must have known it already, but sometimes you need someone you trust to appreciate good ideas - perhaps this was Iacocca - and the prototype was made.

This can, of course, only be valid if the prototype was realised later than 1978. I have no idea :)

And obviously the prototype was not a success, or we would have seen the layout in production ;)

- Anders
1982 Talbot Matra Murena 2.2 prep 142 (under restoration)

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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
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