Importing replicas to Denmark

hru · December 29, 2005, 09:41:53 PM

Anybody knows anything about importing replicas to Denmark.
There are som BMW M1 replicas - based on Murena - on the internet, that looks interesting - but what are the exact rules, espacially regarding the damm tax (

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(Sorry moderator)

Regards
Henrik

Anders Dinsen · December 30, 2005, 08:22:56 AM

I don't think you will have any problem since technically the car is still a Murena and will be registered both in Germany and in Denmark as such. The VIN is still also the same. There are no rules against styling cars as long as the car is still legal as such.

Lennart Sorth · March 19, 2006, 07:35:55 PM

Quote from: hru on December 29, 2005, 09:41:53 PM
regarding the damm tax ( )
(Sorry moderator)

The 'moderator' (that's ME) has absolutely no problem with the above quote, in fact I TOTALLY AGREE :-)

Since the Murena has a selfsustaining chassis, I cannot se any problem in importing a replica.

It is probably a bigger problem finding any of the Saier replicas ? (preferably the first ones, which BMW banned from the market)

hru · March 24, 2006, 02:27:43 PM

There is a guy in spain, having one for sale:

mailto:infovehiculos@speedfactory.es

I think he is looking for 7k Eur. which is not that bad----

hru · March 24, 2006, 02:30:21 PM

Picture:

hru · March 24, 2006, 02:35:10 PM

Original M1'er in sports styling:

Matra_Hans · May 19, 2006, 07:11:39 PM

At the Classic Auto Jumble at Gjern (that is in Denmark) I talked to a guy who had build an AC Cobra replica and had it registered in Denmark. The car was based on a kit from Gardner Douglas http://www.gdcars.com/images/gallery/gd427/Paul%20car_jpg_gd427.jpg
Great efforts had been made to make the car's appearance as close as possible to the original. The engine used was a 4.4 litre V8 from BMW with a 6 speed manual gearbox; this engine has roughly the same displacement as the original Cobra's engine but it has more power.
At first the Danish car inspection would not approve a home build car but the owner took the car to UK and had it approved there. Back in Denmark the car was approved and got its road licence as it had been approved in another EU country, and then it can also be approved in Denmark.
For the Danish registration fee the car was taxed not as a new car but as a classic car from 196X as it was a true copy of a classic car, there was a little addition to the tax due to the modern drive train.

regards Hans

Lennart Sorth · May 19, 2006, 08:27:13 PM

Quote from: Matra_Hans on May 19, 2006, 07:11:39 PM
the car was approved and got its road licence as it had been approved in another EU country

I have also seen that Cobra, - beautiful car. I knew it had been taxed as a 196x car, but didn't know the UK angle. - if that is/becomes common practice for danish taxation, then thats excellent news for kitcars!

Now, I want a GT40 MkII replica, as near original as possible... or even better, a Matra 630 replica !

Anders Dinsen · May 20, 2006, 07:29:03 AM

Quote from: Lennart on May 19, 2006, 08:27:13 PM
... or even better, a Matra 630 replica !

How difficult can it be? Find a proper engine, build a steel frame, build suspension, brakes, mount wheels - and make the body. I'm on!

Will Falconer · May 20, 2006, 08:05:46 AM

No it's not difficult. My brother is building a perfect replica of a Chaparral 2C.
He had access to the original to take all the dimensions, but it's so far taken over 10 years and he gets embarrassed about the money that he's spent.
Of course it's easier to find one of the 30 million(?) small block Chevys than a Matra V12.

Anders Dinsen · May 20, 2006, 04:13:15 PM

Interesting project your brother has there, Will! That's what it takes: Patience and will.

Here's another option. Ligier sells their JS49 prototype - it should be posible to build another body on top of that. After all, a replica does not have to be exact, only to look like the original. The JS49 is probably a bit underpowered compared to the V12 - it's only equipped with a 4 cylinder Civic engine.

Matra_Hans · May 20, 2006, 05:22:14 PM

Well if you start from scratch things are maybe not difficult but it takes time. With a replica kit car you get more or less everything you need so you will just have to put it all together. The Danish AC Cobra replica was (basically) build during one winter (remember the Danish winter is long cold and dark)
Gardner Douglas has another interesting replica their T 70, which is a replica of a Lola centre engine track car.

regards Hans

Lennart Sorth · May 20, 2006, 07:50:58 PM

Quote from: Matra_Hans on May 20, 2006, 05:22:14 PM
The Danish AC Cobra replica was (basically) build during one winter

He spent his winter well !

I believe this is the car:

http://www.sorth.dk/p/20050529/Med/dsc_2109.html
http://www.sorth.dk/p/20050529/Med/dsc_2110.html
http://www.sorth.dk/p/20050529/Med/dsc_2292.html
http://www.sorth.dk/p/20050529/Med/dsc_2395.html

Please disregard the sponsor logo, - pictures are from a local charity event, where
the public can buy themselves a few laps (as passenger) in one of the cars, and the
entire income goes to the Child-Cancer organisation in Denmark. An absolutely
great event, and we're on again next weekend! (28/5 2006)

- and as far as I know, the Cobra will be there again, - so anyone near Copenhagen
next weekend could/should visit "KTI" (near Roskilde).

More info: http://www.sportscarevent.dk (in danish)

No, there will not be any Matra's, but there *will* however be a real GT-40 (not just
the new GT's of which there will be two) - plus pretty much anything you can imagine,
excluding the Bugatti Veyron, which sadly couldn't make it

/Lennart