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Anders Dinsen
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 05:59:09 am » |
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Having looked at some of the photographs, I must have the offroad version! Unfortunately I do not have a real side on shot of the car but you can see from this picture there is loads of clearance between the wheel arch and the top of the tyre.
That's quite common iwht the 1.6'es - Lennart has gone through a lot of trouble fixing this, but the end result is good and his car is now finally and for the first time in its life sitting correctly on the rear springs The issue is, apparantly, that Matra started to fit 2.2 springs on the late 1.6 models for some reason. Perhaps they ran out of the correct ones? Who knows. I think he has a photo of the installation somewhere, but here's one where you can see how it sits now at least (and where it's being inspected by the professionals ): http://www.sorth.dk/p/20090523/Med/20090523_153311.html/Anders
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1982 Talbot Matra Murena 2.2 prep 142 2017 BMW i3 "Charged Professional" 94Ah
Used to own: 2001 Renault Matra Grand Espace "The Race" V6 24v 1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V 1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2
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Titus
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2009, 09:52:04 pm » |
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My 1983 1.6 was also the 'off roader' spec when I got it. Sitting far too high at the rear in my opinion. There was a clearance of 9cm from the top of the rear tyre to the bottom centre of the bodywork arch. See first picture. My thinking in replacing the suspension with the Spax Sport Kit supplied by Simon was to make the wheels fit the bodywork and not to go on and install blue neon underlighting Also the parts needed replacing anyway. This is the same kit as Lennart pioneered on this forum. If Will at Matra Magic had listed these parts in his site under the correct heading I would have sourced them from him at a considerable saving to the price I paid Simon. Worth checking out if anybody is considering this. The following measurements are from the floor to the bottom of the centre point in the bodywork wheel arch. Some may think that the bodywork is not to be relied upon but it gives a good indication of how much the car was dropped by. Original measurements: Front Left (drivers side) 60.6cm Front Right 60.2cm Rear Left 65.6cm Rear Right 65.6cm (suprisingly the same) New measurements : Front (both) 58cm Rear (both) 61.8cm Dropping the rear by about 4cm. The car also sits level. The front was lowered on the torsion bars to almost their limit. I need to post again as the input page keeps dropping down out of view (Lennart help please!)
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Lennart Sorth
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2009, 01:55:10 am » |
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his car is now finally and for the first time in its life sitting correctly on the rear springs indeed, - if anything my car is now a bit too low in the front due to torsion bar fatigue - will have to give them a notch upwards some day. I think Matra either used 2.2 chassis parts or possibly springs - most 1983 1.6 Murenas I have seen, have been sitting 2cm too high at the rear (where "spot on" means the wheel is centered in the wheel arc, as it is on 2.2 Murenas). The car feels noticably different since the tail came down - obviously because the geometry now is how it was designed. Before you had a slight feeling of the car skidding *over* undulations in the road - now it just whacks the wheel around the surface and grips better. I think he has a photo of the installation somewhere
Right here: http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Murena/Conv/P1.9i-8v-ls/20080706/index.htmlAfter cleaning my brakes today (to make them stop howling - not squealing under braking, but whooohooo'ing along after braking) I took the car for a test drive, and since the howling had disappeared, I could fully enjoy a nearby nice roundabout in the middle of a derelict forest area ... it just sucks to the ground, and all power goes to the ground - except for the part that goes straight into the drivers grin :-) That 26 year old car, never stops entertaining me. /Lennart
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