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3.0 24V Espace is Pinking

Started by Waynecarrow, March 12, 2006, 06:32:46 PM

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3.0 24V Espace is Pinking
March 12, 2006, 06:32:46 PM
Here is the next installment in my saga with my 1999 3.0 RXE Grand Espace, having broke the timing belt on its first outing with me I had a replacement engine fitted, one from a 2002 car with 3000 miles on it, great. Driving back from the garage the gearbox felt a bit funny, and next day the car would not move so result new gearbox required (found one on E-bay brand new still in box what was the chance of that?) now I have the car back and for a while it runs great but, once the automatic choke goes off and I carefully accelerate then the car backfires and stutters before it then catches up and off it goes, any body got any ideas as the local garages open the bonnet and scratch their heads then look blankly, the garage that fitted the engine is 150 miles away.

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Wayne

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Re:3.0 24V Espace is Pinking
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March 12, 2006, 08:44:24 PM
I think you have a faulty sensor somewhere. A computer that interrogates the faults list on the car's ecu should help locate it - doesn't need  to be Renault.

My 24v was recently stalling while on choke. The MOT test found the problem - a small hole in the exhaust sent the emissions levels too high.
I know yours is doing the opposite but could be a similar problem.

Time you had some trouble-free motoring. ;D

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March 15, 2006, 08:34:20 PM
The car has been to an auto electric specialist and they plugged it in to their diagnostic computer and, they found nothing, but they must have touched a joint or something because on the trip home it worked fine. Now the only remaining things are the fog lights (they checked this and could not find any thing) the cruise control and the sport button on the gearbox does nothing, still one thing at a time.

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March 15, 2006, 09:44:45 PM
What's wrong with the cruise control?

Note that the button on the gear stick simply deselects the 'overdrive' gear (4th) so you may not notice unless you go more than 80 km/h or so. There's a '3' indicator next to the 'D' that lights up when you turn it on. I do not think it changes gear shift pattern or anything that 'sports' buttons on other automatics usually do.
1982 Talbot Matra Murena 2.2 prep 142 (under restoration)

Used to own:
2001 Renault Matra Grand Espace "The Race" V6 24v
1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2

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March 16, 2006, 07:19:10 AM
My cruise control wouldn't work when I first had the car. Fault was traced to a switch that had got stuck in the off position.
I think it was one operated by the brake pedal.

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March 23, 2006, 08:45:53 PM
Thanks for the advice, the cruise control would not come on at all, I looked at the foot switch and found that it was not making when the footbrake was not in use, I have adjusted it and this is now OK, but the pinking has returned, I need to take the car to a garage that has the full Renault computer, apparently this computer unit will then be able to tell what is wrong with the car
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Wayne
Quote from: Will Falconer on March 16, 2006, 07:19:10 AM
My cruise control wouldn't work when I first had the car. Fault was traced to a switch that had got stuck in the off position.
I think it was one operated by the brake pedal.

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April 23, 2006, 07:58:20 PM
Hey Finally it's sorted !!!  ;D ;D

The fault was traced down to the HT block on the front of the top of the engine, this was occassionally not sparking at the correct time and as the 3.0 sparks twice in each of the engine cycle, once as normal on compression and again on exhaust (so I have been told) the petrol was being ignited on the exhaust stroke hence the backfiring, the garage replaced the HT block and the car is great, only one problem still remains and that's the front fog lights, anyone got a wiring diagram or know where I can get one?

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April 23, 2006, 08:31:45 PM Last Edit: April 23, 2006, 08:32:50 PM by dinsen
The HT block on the 24v engine is known to give problems. Great to hear it's sorted out!!

Wiring diagrams are offered from time to time on e-bay. It's quite a large book. I have one and can make some scans for you. Please contact me by e-mail.

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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2

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