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« on: July 18, 2009, 06:15:50 pm » |
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This is not strictly a new topic as I have been running with this problem for the past 4 years and have posted a few messages, and had a some interesting comments in reply. For those of you who are not familiar with the problem my Espace has I will quickly recap. The current situation is that I have a 2.2dt Grand Espace, on a W plate, which has had a problem with the remote central locking ever since I bought the car some 4 years ago. The local Renault agent wanted £1000 to replace all the electronic components, and re-code the keys. I have lived with the inconvenience of having to lock the car on the internal central locking button, and then locking the passenger front door, until now. I have recently aquired another 2.2dt, which has suffered the usual cambelt problem, and I am contemplating doing a complete electronics transplant, from donor car to my Espace, B11 computer - dashboard - keys and diesel pump. There are a couple of areas that concern me, and it is for this reason I am seeking any guidance you all may be able to offer. My Espace has more features on it than has the donor car. By this I mean that my Espace has rear electric windows, and a rear opening window in the rear hatch door, that the donor car does not have. Is it possible for the B11 to be reprogrammed to enable these options ? From my enquiries I can see no reason for the transplant not to be successful, with the exception of the options problem. Before I embark on the task I would like to hear from anyone who can see any flaw in my cunning plan. If anyone needs any bits from my donor car please let me know. Regards Ross
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ross
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 04:30:50 pm » |
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Thankyou Tom, for your reply to my question, it was very interesting and could prove very useful. Before I decide to strip down the donor car, I am trying to find out what damage the engine has suffered, as I hate to see a good espace go to the scrap, especially one that hasn't covered 100,000 miles. Does anyone know what damage is caused if the piston hits the valves ? I have taken the engine out of the car and removed the rocker cover to look at the camshaft and valves. When I slowly turn the camshaft, I cannot see any sign of a sticking valve, as they all seem to be moving the same. How much does it take for the piston to hit the valve ? Is it only as little as 0.001"(0.025mm), or does it have to be as much as 0.25"(6.35mm) ? I will try and measure the movement of each valve, accurately, to see if there is any difference between them. I am trying to make sure that I need to take the cylinder head off, before I proceed further, to avoid the cost of new bolts and head gasket, to put it back together. When I turn the engine over on the starter there is a worrying knocking noise, so there seems to be something wrong, but I am trying to make absolutely certain what has occured before going further. Any help and advice will be much appreciated. Regards Ross
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fragmaster
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 01:46:17 pm » |
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This is not strictly a new topic as I have been running with this problem for the past 4 years and have posted a few messages, and had a some interesting comments in reply. For those of you who are not familiar with the problem my Espace has I will quickly recap. The current situation is that I have a 2.2dt Grand Espace, on a W plate, which has had a problem with the remote central locking ever since I bought the car some 4 years ago. The local Renault agent wanted £1000 to replace all the electronic components, and re-code the keys. I have lived with the inconvenience of having to lock the car on the internal central locking button, and then locking the passenger front door, until now. I have recently aquired another 2.2dt, which has suffered the usual cambelt problem, and I am contemplating doing a complete electronics transplant, from donor car to my Espace, B11 computer - dashboard - keys and diesel pump. There are a couple of areas that concern me, and it is for this reason I am seeking any guidance you all may be able to offer. My Espace has more features on it than has the donor car. By this I mean that my Espace has rear electric windows, and a rear opening window in the rear hatch door, that the donor car does not have. Is it possible for the B11 to be reprogrammed to enable these options ? From my enquiries I can see no reason for the transplant not to be successful, with the exception of the options problem. Before I embark on the task I would like to hear from anyone who can see any flaw in my cunning plan. If anyone needs any bits from my donor car please let me know. Regards Ross
hi there , the norm is for it to break rocker arms, htese can be nought on ebay for a fraction of the of the price.. also it may have sheared the locating tab on the camshaftpulley wheel, this is another thing that happens to minimise damage, it all usually starts with the water pump leaking , belt rotting and tensioners seizing so think about changing all when stripped down
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 08:57:10 pm » |
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Hi fragmaster, As you may have noticed my post was some time ago, and I have now been running with my repaired engine, and electronics swap for about 6 months. The fault with my original engine was a worn camshaft and pulley wheel, which allowed a couple of rocker arms to jump off when the engine was under load and high revs. The spare engine did indeed have a couple of broken rocker arms and the pulley wheel had its key pip broken, which had allowed it to rotate out of synch with the pump and crank pulleys. I managed to get the spare engine going using the good bits from both engines and it ran nicely, for about 6 months, until I got hold of another complete crankshaft + pulley wheel + rockers to repair my original engine. I have now swapped the engines over so that I am now running with my original engine once more. I wish I had known about the way to reset the diesel pump code, as it is not an easy task to remove and swap the solenoids from the pumps. It might have been easier to swap the complete pumps, but I didn't like the idea of having to reset the pump timing, which from what I read was not an easy task. My original engine seems to be running fine, touch wood, and I have a spare engine just in case of further problems. My only current problem is that I seem to have picked up a water leak, which is filling up the storage bin under the drivers seat, and at the moment I can't find the source of the leak. The carpets all seem to be dry, except for the ones inside the storage bin. I assume the water is in the double floor skin and running to the lowest point which must be the bin. I will have to take all the carpets out and watch to see where the water is comming from. All part of the joy of being an Espace owner. Many thanks for your message. Regards........Ross
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