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Started by njesper, December 01, 2009, 10:31:51 AM

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Re: Parts Weight list - Pickin up speed - cool!!
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February 08, 2010, 06:02:07 PM
!!  thats e heavy beast that n9tea :)   add another 15kg with your intake and exhaust :)

i suggest xu9j4.  1.9l  16v  and much lighter and powerful

a smaller battery can easy save you some kg
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February 08, 2010, 06:07:31 PM
I strongly suggest that you get a good strong battery... you need the juice..

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February 08, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: GP on February 08, 2010, 05:54:59 PM
2.2 Engine assembly with no gearbox, intake or exhaust manifolds. (Politechnic Cam Cover fitted) = 151kg
Suggested lightweight and powerful engine alternatives anyone?

AER's "Mazda MZR-R" (it's a British engine all the way despite the Japanese manufacturer name) weighs HALF that (including turbo and manifolds!) and produces 450 BHP reliably for 24 hours. You won't get it any leighter than this, or more powerful! :D

http://www.aerltd.com/products.html
1982 Talbot Matra Murena 2.2 prep 142 (under restoration)

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2001 Renault Matra Grand Espace "The Race" V6 24v
1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2

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February 09, 2010, 11:55:50 AM Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 11:58:32 AM by krede
150kg.. how much was the gearbox?
Either way, I'm not sure that is could be described at "insanely" heavy..
Take a look at these

http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html

Still... some 30+ more than the Douvrin 2.0 they Matra planned to use.. it is listed at roughly 120 kg.

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February 09, 2010, 05:24:53 PM Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 09:15:11 PM by GP
Quote from: krede on February 09, 2010, 11:55:50 AM
150kg.. how much was the gearbox?
Either way, I'm not sure that is could be described at "insanely" heavy..
Take a look at these

http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html

Still... some 30+ more than the Douvrin 2.0 they Matra planned to use.. it is listed at roughly 120 kg.

2.2 Murena Gearbox 48kg.

http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt

Same link as above but with additional data. Take the Ford 2.3 Pinto at 328lbs/149kgs. This shows that in it's day the Murena 2.2  engine weight was more or less the standard.


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February 18, 2010, 08:25:40 PM Last Edit: February 18, 2010, 08:28:07 PM by darrenheli
carbon radiator guard , orignal metal one 488g new carbon 139g a bit of saving . going to try make the mounting brackets next

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March 14, 2010, 09:33:34 PM
just done the brackets for the above panel and it fits

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March 15, 2010, 05:10:43 AM
I'm very impressed with your work, Darren!

/Anders
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March 15, 2010, 06:59:12 AM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on March 15, 2010, 05:10:43 AM
I'm very impressed with your work, Darren!

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+1!

Have you thought about starting some sort of production ?..

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March 15, 2010, 01:00:03 PM
yes i can make more if required , i have made moulds as i go along, i think an engine and boot cover next

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March 15, 2010, 03:09:00 PM
I'm also interested - parts which are not visible (carbon radiator guard, underbody guard) + if You are going to make engine cover (which is simply changeable to original one), take this as an order from me. Thank You in advance  ;)

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March 18, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Yahh.. engine cover would be nice...

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March 18, 2010, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: krede on March 18, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Yahh.. engine cover would be nice...

And You will save 5kg  ;)

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March 18, 2010, 01:51:47 PM
I think I will have one made in Aluminium. I need a custom job with a bulge to accommodate my intercooler (when I get so far).

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March 24, 2010, 06:21:24 AM
Hello guys, and it's here... ::) ;D as we say: "You'll allways have the biggest piece of that cake You didn't wanted to eat..." - I asked my friend who is racing with his Mercedes 190E 2,5-16V if I can take a part on next race on circuit, and what happend? He managed it!  :D Well this saturday is the race, and who will be my competitors? Audi Quattro, Porsche 911, BMW E30 M3, Jaguar XJS V12, 2x Lancia Delta HF and 4x Mercedes-Benz 190E 2,5-16V  :o ??? :-X All cars arround +230PS  :-\
So what I'm going to do - put off some kilograms and make the suspension harder:
- I changed the wheels to BBS RS 15" with tyres Toyo Proxes 195/50R15 and 215/45R15
- changed all silentblocs of front stabilisator to Polyurethan ones (much more harder = less of side tilt)
- will demount passengers foot-hold, door panels with speakers, el.windows engines, side windows will be changed to plexi glass (but does it make sense? How much kgs it could be in total?)
- removing the spare wheel
- rear glass will be changed to plexi
- engine cover will be made from alu sheet
- set-up of front axle will be changed a little bit more to "A"
- my Spax suspension will be lowered as much as possible
- minimum of fuel in tank

Do you think that demounting of passengers seat will help so much? How much is its weight?

I want to make only that modifications, which will be easilly possible to make back to original condition - you all know me  ;) so is there something on your mind what more could be done?
On friday I will go to circuit to test the suspension changes and new tyres, so I have only today and tomorrow.

It doesn't look so bad on that BBSs, what do you think?





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