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Oetker
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« Reply #150 on: September 09, 2012, 05:42:55 pm »

Are there any other cars whiches use the same or similar mounting rubber for the exhaust?

You mean this one?
I have this laying around but not mounted yet.
The difference is that there is no metal wrapped around it.
Maybe with some work it might fit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Talbot-Exhaust-Rubber-Mount-/310257118072?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item483cc3eb78
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Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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« Reply #151 on: September 09, 2012, 06:36:04 pm »

Yes, but mine is a bit smaller. The distance between the holes is about 22mm.

Is it important to have the metal sheet around the rubber? Does it have any function?
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« Reply #152 on: September 09, 2012, 09:44:42 pm »

Yes, but mine is a bit smaller. The distance between the holes is about 22mm.

Is it important to have the metal sheet around the rubber? Does it have any function?

The Murena exhaust is heavy so I think it is needed, but looking at the one from the auction, (I have one here), the rubber is pretty stiff so it may not be needed.
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Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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« Reply #153 on: September 22, 2012, 08:32:35 pm »

Has anyone tried this paint on the area in front of the windscreen?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VHT-BLACK-WRINKLE-FINISH-SPRAY-PAINT-SP201-/251129248397?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a78783a8d

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« Reply #154 on: September 22, 2012, 10:17:42 pm »


Yep that is the stuff you need but it needs a user-manual to do it right.
I bought it from a specialist and he wrote down how to do it.
If you buy the stuff I will make a translation for you because if you want to do it right folow the rules.


Greets Herman
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Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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« Reply #155 on: September 23, 2012, 12:16:54 am »

Thanks.

I also found the paint on a Hungarian website with instruction.
This says, 3 layers must be applied from 25-30cm distance, in crisscross fashion (horizontal, vertical, diagonal) within 30 minutes. Wait at least 3 minutes between the layers. If it is possible use a hot air gun, maximum 90C.
Is it right?

I hope 1 can is enough for the work with some practice before painting the car.

Could you send me some photos about the area just to see what and where to paint? Mainly at the sides and corners.
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« Reply #156 on: September 23, 2012, 08:39:54 am »

Yes but it needs to be 21-32 Celsius and take 5 days to hard out completly.
Hotter = finer wrinkle but on my 2.2 it's not a fine wrinkle so I would not use a heating gun.
Not touch it for 24 hours after painting.
It needs to be used at bare clean metal.
Because of the galvenised  part of the Murena it will come loose after some years.
No solution for that found , and that is why I did not use it on my Murena yet.
In my 2.2 the paint is used till the rubber that touches the hood, but I think that is not needed.

A friend of mine did his MG dash with it and that looks pretty good.
You be the genuine pig, because I am still in doubt of using it.
I will try it out on my 1.6 in spring next year because they painted it with a duster Smiley so needs to be done anyway.

Some of my pics.




Greets herman
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« Reply #157 on: September 23, 2012, 11:57:25 am »

It needs to be used at bare clean metal.

That sounds not so good. The chassis is painted with epoxy primer now because the zinc coat was damaged at some places after 30 years. And I prefer using primer underneath any topcoats to prevent corrosion and peel off.

Thanks for the pics.
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« Reply #158 on: September 23, 2012, 12:20:13 pm »

It needs to be used at bare clean metal.

That sounds not so good. The chassis is painted with epoxy primer now because the zinc coat was damaged at some places after 30 years. And I prefer using primer underneath any topcoats to prevent corrosion and peel off.

Thanks for the pics.

The first time I sprayed a car I used paint  to thick for the spaygun.
It was yellow and the car looked like a yellow orange
If you make the paint thicker then it looks like sandpaper.
I think that is the closest you can get to wrinkle with normal paint.

Greets Herman
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« Reply #159 on: September 23, 2012, 01:21:49 pm »

I have also used the VHT paint on my windscreen surround.  The instructions of my tin say it should be used between 16 and 35 deg. C  I stripped it back to  bare metal with Nitromors paint stripper and then sprayed on etch primer.  I then put on three coats of the wrinkle paint as directed in the instructions.  I did it about 18 months ago and it still looks good, I seem to remember it took about a day to wrinkle propoerly.
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« Reply #160 on: September 24, 2012, 08:21:20 pm »

Does anyone have more information about using Weber 34 DMTR carburettor in Murena 2.2? Or photos of an installed one?

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« Reply #161 on: September 25, 2012, 06:08:35 pm »

Hi Klumzer

First, thanks for a really detailed thread on your car. You have done many of the jobs I am going to try on my car this winter. It has not run for ten years, was abandoned in a garage by its last owner and will be getting a full restore.

To answer your question, I think I have a 34 DMTR fitted to my car. I'm just about to remove it and get it refurbished. I don't know how well it ran ten years ago and I cannot run the car now without a lot of work to the engine, so I will only find out when the rebuild is complete in a few months. I am taking a chance it will work ok. If not, I will sell it and find either a Solex or try the Weber 40.
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« Reply #162 on: September 25, 2012, 06:13:15 pm »

It was originally hidden under a dirty K and N filter which I have removed. Very black inside!
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« Reply #163 on: September 25, 2012, 07:21:47 pm »

Thank you for the pictures.

This forum is very useful. I could not  have done a lot of things without it. It is always worth searching on it. Sometimes I do not find the perfect answer but later it can be found in another thread and members always can help or advise something, so many thanks for them. Smiley

My engine can run but I think it would be better to overhaul the carburettor. I have Solex but it is not easy to find a repair kit for it that is why I am looking for more infos about Weber carburettors.
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« Reply #164 on: September 25, 2012, 07:50:25 pm »

I have spoken to some companies in the UK today and they have said the same thing. That is why I am keeping the Weber and having it refurbished.
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