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TimS
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 12:50:09 pm »

Thanks is it easy to see the rear slave cylinder?

I do think the brake fluid will have degraded but the brakes still work.
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2012, 08:12:44 am »

It is below the gearbox a bit.



Pay also attention to small oil leaks at th nuts where the plasic tube goes in.
There are small rubbers inside that tends to leak a little.
It brings air in the system.
Best is ofcourse to overhaul the compleet system after 30 years.
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I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different.
Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2012, 05:23:39 pm »

unstuck the clutch today Grin

Pete, your trick worked well. Warmed the engine up a bit then turned it off, put it in reverse (as its in the garage), bit of handbrake to control, and cranked it. 3 goes of this and a slight "thump", the clutch comes free. All gears good and very smooth.

Also bled the coolant system and did Roys trick of keeping the heater on max warm whilst doing all this. Engine sounds surprisingly smooth and it may be that the carb is also OK.

Naturally a lot of black soot and carbon dropping out of the exhausts, which I will have to work out how to clean.

Only one problem, I found these under the car after I had driven it in and out of the garage a few times. I have no idea what they are. Does anyone and is it serious?
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 05:41:59 pm »

Here it is running, sorry for the wobbly video...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/99561763/Matra/Running.mp4

Sounds good even though there is no air filter on, it still has the old plugs, leads, distributor and rotor arm - all to be changed now i know there is nothing seriously wrong with the engine. I wasn't going to service it if it needed the engine stripping down but I don't think there is anything seriously wrong with it and I can work on getting it through the MOT test.

Then it is road legal and I can drive it to specialists for work!
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2012, 06:18:39 pm »

Making good progress!  Those plug and socket things don't look at all familiar to me, but since they weren't connected they can't have been important, I assume most of the electrics work.  The odd electrical gremlin is par for the course with these cars, but they are nearly all down to the fuse panel on the left hand front inner wing.  Once that has been cleaned up and any dodgy connectors replaced, they are usually ok if you use the car regularly.  It's probably worth getting an MoT and driving it round for a bit so that you can assess what needs to be done.
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TimS
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2012, 06:53:39 pm »

Just what I want to do Pete.

All the electrics work, although the heater fan squeals which makes me think bearing. All lights and wipers are good for an MOT test. I will need 4 new tyres, maybe some brake pipes. As for the suspension and shock absorbers, I think I might just put it in for the test and see what they think. Doesn't feel bad to me. Wheel bearings and brakes ok, but new brake fluid would be wise.

Because it only ran for about 1500 miles after a service, before being parked up, there's no reason why, other than ageing rubber pipes, it shouldn't be sound.

Very pleased that I can now get it out of the garage - will make the work much easier as you can see, I have a little slope on my drive. Please note, not all Matra Murena's come with Man Utd-supporting 6 year old helpers!!
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2012, 08:23:34 pm »

Only one problem, I found these under the car after I had driven it in and out of the garage a few times. I have no idea what they are. Does anyone and is it serious?
Hi Tim. Congratulations with your Murena. It looks very good  Smiley

You do not have to worry about what you found on the floor, it is sockets for radio tubes, so it does not belong to Murena Grin

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TimS
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2012, 08:47:51 pm »

Thanks Finn.

No idea how they got in the car!!
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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2012, 08:36:19 am »

Only one problem, I found these under the car after I had driven it in and out of the garage a few times. I have no idea what they are. Does anyone and is it serious?
Hi Tim. Congratulations with your Murena. It looks very good  Smiley

You do not have to worry about what you found on the floor, it is sockets for radio tubes, so it does not belong to Murena Grin

Finn

Indeed, very old (fifties and perhaps early sixties) sockets for battery radio tubes. Strange.
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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2012, 09:56:57 am »

The last owner, who had it stored for ten years, kept a lot of junk in the garage with it. How they got into the exhausts or the engine bay is anyone guess though Wink
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2012, 10:34:14 am »

kids and cats. Wink
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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2012, 02:21:47 pm »

Just ran the engine up. Noticed the was no charge indication on the ammeter. Should its how a charge at idle speeds?
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« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2012, 03:22:50 pm »

It's a voltmeter, not an ammeter.  It should show some charge at idle speed and be close to the centre position at running speeds with no accessories in use and a battery in good condition.  If you have a multimeter, connect it across the battery terminals, you should see about 13.5 - 14 volts at 2000 rpm.  Does the ignition warning light come on when you switch on the ignition and go out when the engine starts?  Check all the connections to the alternator.  If the light doesn't work and you can see 12 volts between the large alternator terminal and earth, then there is probably a poor connection in the warning light circuit.  This has to function for the alternator to work.  Likely culprits are the multiway plug behind the dash or the plug in the front compartment near to the fusebox, this carries all the connections from the front to the engine compartment and the connection ends up at the larger of the two spade connectors on the back of the alternator.  You should be able to see 12 volts there when the ignition is on.  If you haven't got a multimeter, now is the time to get one, you're bound to need it  Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2012, 04:13:20 pm »

Thanks Pete.
I think a lot of the little problems are down to the sheer level of dirt on everything that has accumulated after ten years which I have to scrape off every component. The photos don't really show how bad some bits are. The warning light does come on with the ignition and goes out with the engine starting which is something. The needle moves a little when the engine is run up but remains in the negative side.

I am still cleaning wiring in the front of the car and have no doubt the connections at the back are just as bad. I will be getting the car up on ramps and spending a day under it cleaning as much as possible.

The fuel gauge also comes and goes, probably the same problem. All are a little slow.

Right now it's trying to get the jobs in the righ order and not get sidetracked...I do have all winter!
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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2012, 04:20:58 pm »

Sounds as if it's basically working.  The voltmeter does tend to read a bit low due to poor connections and wiring resistance, so you need to go through all the connections, but if you're getting a sensible voltage at the battery terminals, I wouldn't worry too much.  The battery may also be in a low state of charge, it's surely not the one that came with the car after a ten-year lay-up?
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