new owner in kent

tonyz59 · September 21, 2020, 03:57:30 PM

I removed the head and gearbox today, it looks like the gasket delaminated on 1 water way and about to on another one .

tonyz59 · October 05, 2020, 06:22:31 PM

stripped down the head over the weekend, this is what i found No3 inlet valve guide dropped down in the head as can be seen in the pictures

tonyz59 · October 07, 2020, 12:25:08 PM

here is a pic of whats left of the exhaust lobe due to the inlet rocker arm incorrectly fitted to the exhaust side

tonyz59 · October 08, 2020, 01:49:19 PM

Some bearing surfaces def not like a baby's bum

Matraman · October 08, 2020, 03:04:04 PM

Wow time for a rebuild! I made a point of telling the people who refurbished the head of mine that the rockers are different and need to go back in the same order. I hope they did it properly! Is there any way of telling which rocker is which when they're fitted? I would like to check them when I torque down the head after running in.

tonyz59 · October 08, 2020, 04:01:28 PM

Quote from: Matraman on October 08, 2020, 03:04:04 PM
Wow time for a rebuild! I made a point of telling the people who refurbished the head of mine that the rockers are different and need to go back in the same order. I hope they did it properly! Is there any way of telling which rocker is which when they're fitted? I would like to check them when I torque down the head after running in.

no way to see from above , it's if you can get your finger or other device to feel for the oil feed hole underneath the rocker by the lobe. I am sure Roy would have a cunning way of checking

Oetker · October 08, 2020, 08:03:12 PM

Faulty information
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roy4matra · October 10, 2020, 08:05:01 PM

Quote from: tonyz59 on October 08, 2020, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Matraman on October 08, 2020, 03:04:04 PM
Wow time for a rebuild! I made a point of telling the people who refurbished the head of mine that the rockers are different and need to go back in the same order. I hope they did it properly! Is there any way of telling which rocker is which when they're fitted? I would like to check them when I torque down the head after running in.
no way to see from above , it's if you can get your finger or other device to feel for the oil feed hole underneath the rocker by the lobe. I am sure Roy would have a cunning way of checking

Yes you can check when it is fully assembled and fitted. Two ways in fact. The cheap way is as you suggest, with you finger as you can get a finger under the arms and feel the indentation where the oil hole is, or where it is simply 'smooth' if there is no oil hole.

The more expensive way?

I also have a small magnifying mirror on a handle, rather like a dentist's mirror, and if you get the head under the arm you should be able to see which is which.

Roy

roy4matra · October 10, 2020, 08:12:51 PM

Quote from: Oetker on October 08, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
As far as I know. the rockers need to be for all cilinders the same.

No, that only applies to the 1.6 engine, as in your photo. The 2.2 OHC engine is totally different, and the rocker arms look the same and unfortunately can be fitted in the wrong place. However, all the rocker arms are internally supplied with oil from holes in the rocker shaft, but the exhaust rocker arms have an oil hole on the underside to spray oil at the exhaust valves.

Roy. (I will get one of each out of my garage in a day or so and add a photo here later)

Oetker · October 10, 2020, 09:37:46 PM

Oops, I must stop drinking to much.
I tought I reacted on a post from Grapes.
He has a 1.6
I wil remove posting.
Herman

Valve seals for the 2.2 are this one.
What I linked was 1.6
https://carpartsdeal.nl/pages/product/2633064

tonyz59 · October 12, 2020, 09:55:50 AM

Quote from: Oetker on October 10, 2020, 09:37:46 PM
"Oops, I must stop drinking to much."

Herman

I get where your coming from, since i bought the murena my drinking has increased to take the pain away

tonyz59 · October 13, 2020, 02:05:51 PM

some more engine pics note the sealant customised seal inserts

Matraman · October 16, 2020, 02:56:20 PM

That waxed rope crank seal needs a bit of care when you replace it. I watched a few you tube videos on other engines first because there seems to be a blend of art and science involved with fitting it! I still have a pot of (look away now if you're veggie!) tallow in the garage because the Chrysler 180 manual recommended using it.

tonyz59 · October 17, 2020, 07:04:55 AM

I have that manual as well and saw that about the tallow. I have a tub of it , back in the day we used it for the threading of electrical conduit , as soon as I smelt it all those memories came flooding back !

tonyz59 · March 13, 2021, 10:07:15 AM

Just to bring this up to date with a few pics. engine rebuilt by me, my first ever time, and ready to go back in car. Many thanks to Roy for advice and help in sourcing and supplying the parts needed for the build. It has had a head skim, the dropped valve guide has been replaced a new cam and followers, new pistons, main and big end bearings, crank has been polished and the flywheel has been lightened. I am doing some de rusting and cleaning/painting of the engine bay/ wheel arches so will be a while before it goes back in though.