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« on: March 10, 2008, 12:15:57 am »

Just had a quick look at the car today, and saw something rather disturbing.....  Huh Huh Huh

Surely the front isnīt ment to be like this.....?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 10:44:02 am »

No it is supposed to fit together nicely, but Murenas have never been known for perfect assembly quality in the body.
Second photo, however, looks like the front bumper is loose somewhere. It's nothing serious: Get under the front end and check the mounting points.

The front of the Murena is riveted together and made up almost completely of glass fiber panels. The chassis more or less only extends enough to carry the front susspension. A few loose rivets or rusted through metal joints, and it starts looking like what you have.

Don't worry! Wink
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 10:58:51 am »

Wohoo... was a bit worried there for a moment.... Seems some PO have tried to rewire the lights, could be he didn't do a good job putting it together again. Since it does seem like he must have removed the front to get to everything.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 11:13:35 am »

Yes, we've seen that photo of the relays before from Björn-Anders  Shocked
I think it's possible to get access to all wiring without actually taking the front bumper off, but it does require some "arm twisting" Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 11:53:16 am »

Just looked at your pages Anders, Been wondering if I should rewire the lights like the diagram you made there, since i probably would need to do something to it anyway....

Is it much work, and are there any special components besides the normal relays?
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 05:48:17 pm »

Okay, some more of "This canīt be.....? "....

Does anybody know what this connector connects, and if it should look like this inside.....?  Huh Huh
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 06:09:17 pm »

Okay, some more of "This canīt be.....? "....

Does anybody know what this connector connects, and if it should look like this inside.....?  Huh Huh

Of course Smiley

It is one of the three connectors connecting the front wiring loom to the rear wiring loom.

It looks a bit greasy, but that's in fact a good thing as long as there are proper connections. The grease helps keep water away, and water is the worst enemy of these connectors as it causes corrosion, bad connections, hot connections, and eventually melted housings. I note that the housings here look okay, and apart from the greas, it also looks like the tabs in the housings are okay too. I suggest you clean the old grease out, carefully inspect the tabs, and then regrease it all using silicone grease.

I.e. nothing to worry about Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 08:43:40 pm »

Ah, yes I see it now. the one called CC8, to the front light harness. Could be the reason why someone have installed those relays afterwards, since there are three new light relays.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 04:46:02 pm »

Ah, yes I see it now. the one called CC8, to the front light harness. Could be the reason why someone have installed those relays afterwards, since there are three new light relays.

Not quite, the one you are looking on is CC6. CC8 is located under the left front wing.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 09:20:49 am »

If you are correct Anders(which I do not doubt for a second), the perhaps this could be the famous fault for the temp.... Being connector CC6, it should contain wire 94, which is the temp sender unit wire....

Could it be that there has been a poor connection here which doesnt give me a reading, but is good enough when it is grounded to give a reading.....? Huh Huh
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 09:30:32 am »

Thanks for the kind words - I'm actually wrong from time to time Smiley

Could it be that there has been a poor connection here which doesnt give me a reading, but is good enough when it is grounded to give a reading.....? Huh Huh

Absolutely, and certainly worth a bit of further measurement. Do the measurements first, however, so you don't have to do everything by trial and error.

- Anders
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 01:54:22 pm »

Or as the carpenters allways say, measure twice, cut once....  Cheesy Cheesy hehe
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