Price...?

[krede]

Yes I see that one, but why not a 505 harness and parts, since the engines are so similar compared to the Opel.....

As I said.. It seems the obvious choice to use the 505 (turbo) harness... but Im not sure that the ecu is "chippable"
Also... the 505 harness is a mess with several different boxes each taking care of one task, ignition timing, injection, knock sensor etc...
The Opel is ONE box.. and I only recommend it because its a very basic system, that should be easy to modify.. and cheap to aquire.

But I thought the airflowmeter was ahead of the throttlebody.....?

yep.. both the 505 and the Opels use an "upstream" flap type airflow meter.
But as Anders said.. the throttlebody is what regulates the airflow to the engine....ie.. the throttle... you defenatly need one of those mate

[RazorbackNOR]

Hmm, and here I thought we indeed ran them at full speed .... 

[RazorbackNOR]

Just talked to a firm here in norway which specialises in making injection and electronic management for cars. They use a Van Kronenburg system which I think look rather good, prices didn't seem to bad either.

http://www.vankronenburg.nl/

Will contact them some more regarding what parts are neede, what they can supply and prices.

[RazorbackNOR]

Has anybody tried the 505Gti manifold on the Murena by the way.....?

[Anders Dinsen]

Has anybody tried the 505Gti manifold on the Murena by the way.....?

Andreas Stier in Germany:


http://www.espace-murena.com/recensementFrameDetailF.php?ref=VF853C432DX702733

[Megatech]

The safe way 30.000 DKK:
Politecnic solution  incl. fuel pump and pre-programmed ECU.

Cheap way 12.000 DKK:
Lotus NA throttle bodies and injection studs welded onto S-manifold and Megasquirt ECU and fuel pump. Homemade programming needed. Lotus forums can help.

Cheaper way 10.000 DKK:
Buy 45 trottlebodies incl. Lumenition ECU from me at 7.000 DKK
S-manifold + fuel pump  needed est. 3.000 DKK.
Basic programme is usable, but rolling road programming will improve performance.

[RazorbackNOR]

He he, shall think about this one, seems that the manifold and throttlebodies are the ones that really cost, apart form the ECU ofcourse.

Hadn't had the courage to do the work yet Megatech...? hehe 

[krede]

He he, shall think about this one,

'

IMHO 45mm tb's are too large for an engine that revs out at 6300rpm.


7000dkr is A very reasonable price for both Tb and EFI

[Anders Dinsen]

He he, shall think about this one,

'

IMHO 45mm tb's are too large for an engine that revs out at 6300rpm.

Current restrictor size for LMP1 prototypes is 48.5 mm  (one restrictor for the whole engine, 4 valves per cylinder, normally aspirated, less than 3 litres), and they get more than 500 BHP out of that - so yes, 45's can breathe a lot of air! But since airspeed means less on TB's than on carbs, I don't think it matters a lot whether you choose 40's or 45's. Cross section is 25% larger on the 45's, and it may be a little easier to get the idle and low revs working perfectly, but as soon as there is any kind of opening, it shouldn't matter.

Stig's (Megatech) offering should be quite attractive for the seriously interested.

[Matra_Hans]

Hi
Just to awoid any confusion:
The picture of Andreas Stier's engine that Anders ibserted above is with a 505 Turbo Injection inlet manifold NOT a 505 GTI

The 505 GTi engine has Peugeot engine code ZDJL where as the 505 Turbo Injection is the N9Te engine from Talbot. 

Hans

[RazorbackNOR]

So this means that the ONLY manifold that will fit, is the orginal Murena manifold and the 505 turbo injection manifold....? None others...?

[krede]

None others...?

Nope!

[Anders Dinsen]

The picture of Andreas Stier's engine that Anders ibserted above is with a 505 Turbo Injection inlet manifold NOT a 505 GTI

Thanks for the clarification Hans!

[RazorbackNOR]

The safe way 30.000 DKK:
Politecnic solution  incl. fuel pump and pre-programmed ECU.

Got mail from Pollitecnic now, a bit cheaper then we belived.... came out at 25000 NOK, with would be 3150 Euros. could be reduced to 24000NOK/3000Euro if all mounting by oneself. plus VAT.... But, still a lot, and since I haven't won the lottery yet....

[krede]

Are you kidding?? 

Got mail from Pollitecnic now

... That amounts to just about the same as winning the lottery!!
Politecnic are RENOWN for not answering mail!!!