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« Reply #210 on: October 17, 2011, 08:30:23 am »

Could anybody try to help me out a bit here....?
I purchased a set of rubbers for the shockabsorbers, upper mount, but now I'm not sure if it is for the front or the rear shocks....

This is the purchased item


Original front upper mount


Original rear upper mount


My problem now is that the new set, looking at just the parts, seems to be a set for the rear, since the just have the one "cup".
But when looking better at the parts, sizewise it looks like it is for the front, since these are about the same size, and the rear parts are almost twice the size of the new and the orginal front parts.

 Huh  Huh  Huh
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« Reply #211 on: October 17, 2011, 10:29:56 am »

The new parts are front (upper picture).
This are my frontrubbers.


The last picture is rear, they are bigger size.
This is my rear rubber mounted (Not the one right at the table, that is front so you can see the difference).


The other pic I don't recognise as Matra.
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« Reply #212 on: October 17, 2011, 11:43:53 am »

The second picture are my original front upper mounts. From what I can understand from Simons invoice, it should be the front ones too, but if you look at the partlist drawing of these items, you see that there should be 2 "cups" on the front mounts as seen on my original. And only 1 on the rear, as my orginal rear and the purchased item....

Two "cups" on front.


One "cup" on rear


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« Reply #213 on: October 17, 2011, 11:57:18 am »

Yep you're right, its been a while, I looked at a set of spare front Koni's I have for the Murena and ther are 2 plates for each shock.
You have one to little.
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« Reply #214 on: October 17, 2011, 01:19:35 pm »

Hmm, strange that there should be one missing in both the sets thou.... And it contained only one nut. Which is why i thought they might be for the rear, where the are much much smaller then the ones fitted....

still clueless.....  Huh  Huh
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« Reply #215 on: October 27, 2011, 08:54:41 am »

Yes! Finally got the rear caliper back together again today. Been strugling with the handbrake part of it for some days, not being able to compress enough to get the levershaft through.

Seems like I started out with the piston set to deep in the caliper so the prodruding shaft would not go deep enough to allow the levershaft trough.
so after twisting the piston some turns out, I still wasn't able to get the shaft trough, even when compressing the springs in a heavy duty press at work....

Just a little twist of the protruding shaft, and it sank right on down, allowing for more than enough workspace for fitting the wegde, spring and levershaft effordlessly!  Grin

So, with the tough part of the job done, all that remains now is fitting all the calipers and holder to the car, bleeding the system(brake and clutch) assembling gearlever alongside the clutch(had to be removed for workspace of stuck clutchslave), assembling and mounting shocks and springs, and then it is ready to go into winterstorage( hopefully before the snow surprises me like it did last year and my baby has to endure a whole winter outdoors....)  Shocked
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« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2011, 08:37:50 am »

Have now assembled the brakes on Goldie, seems to be coming along nicely now.  Grin

Rear bracket mounted



Pads with spring in place


Note correct orientation of piston for bleeding purpose.


Caliper in place, awaiting wedges


Caliper in place with wegdes


And secured


Same procedure for the front: Holder in place. Also note the matching shocks.


Pads with springs


Caliper in place


And complete


And as you can see, new discbrakes are high on the wishlist....
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« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2011, 09:13:04 am »

Looks good.
Only one remark.
The tensionsprings on the rear should be like this according tot the manual.

One stupid thing about it.
On the front they need to be mounted like yours.
Strange, did they drink to much when drawing the manual or is there a reason?
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« Reply #218 on: November 08, 2011, 09:18:25 am »


And as you can see, new discbrakes are high on the wishlist....


You mean new "disks" I assume. Otherwise you definitely need to have yours turned before trying to stop the car with them.  Wink The rust and pitting will never make them work well otherwise.
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« Reply #219 on: November 08, 2011, 10:13:57 am »

Looks good.
Only one remark.
The tensionsprings on the rear should be like this according tot the manual.

One stupid thing about it.
On the front they need to be mounted like yours.
Strange, did they drink to much when drawing the manual or is there a reason?

Hmm, will pop them of and fix their position. Seemed to retain the pads this way too thou. To much french wine at lunchtime is my guess.... Cheesy
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« Reply #220 on: November 08, 2011, 10:17:27 am »


And as you can see, new discbrakes are high on the wishlist....


You mean new "disks" I assume. Otherwise you definitely need to have yours turned before trying to stop the car with them.  Wink The rust and pitting will never make them work well otherwise.

Yes new disks.... I don't think they are that heavily pitted, a fair amount of surface rust, but that wasn't unexected either, been standing much to long still now this "old gal". Having the guys at works turn them in shouldn't be a problem, at my former workplace, we also had a tool to turn in place on the car.
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« Reply #221 on: November 08, 2011, 06:14:31 pm »

Nice!  Smiley
It looks good!
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« Reply #222 on: November 15, 2011, 02:21:56 pm »

Nice!  Smiley
It looks good!

Thank you klumzer.

But I need only look to another of my countrymen to see how a real job should be done.... look at this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldz10F37SXw
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« Reply #223 on: November 15, 2011, 02:22:27 pm »

Hmm, went down to to some of the final work on my car for the season. Last thing left to do was to bleed the brakes. Used a bleed kit with a oneway-valve fitted, so no need to open and close the bleedvalve for every push of the pedal.

Front curcuit went just fine, stream of bubbles and the solid stream of brake fluid.
Rear curcuit on the other hand.....
Sat there, pumping away til the cows came home..... No reaction at the bleedvalve. Put the hose in the ear while my assistent pumped the pedal. Not a sound.... Something is seriously wrong. Shouldn't I be able to hear the sound of some passing wind(Grin) through the hose?

And since something is wrong, what coukd it be? Even if some of the seal were put the wrong way, some pressure should be building up? On the front curcuit there has even trinkled enough through the pipes that it came out of the not tightend bleedvalve without applying pressure to the pedal.

Is there anything in the distibuton valve fitted ahead of the right rear wheel?
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« Reply #224 on: November 15, 2011, 02:22:53 pm »

UPDATE:

Have now removed brakeline from distributionvalve, no sign of fluid.... followed line to brakemaster, and disconnected. Still no sign there either, so wil now drain the reservour for the remaining fluid, unscrew, remove and inspect the whole brakemaster(again....)
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