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Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator

Started by dragonzuiko, March 16, 2011, 08:22:54 AM

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Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
March 16, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
Why do these cars like taking money from your wallet  ???

I have a small leak coming from the side of my radiator, looks like its coming from the top and i think its been there a while.

Has any body tried a rad seal product and found it to do the job ? i do have wynns rad seal but it says dont put it in the expansion bottle, so thats out. i dont want to put anything in the coolant just in case in seals the wrong thing.

thanks Peter

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 16, 2011, 03:47:05 PM
This car needs an efficient cooling system - because both the engine and the gearbox depends on its effectiveness.
I tend to worry more about the gearbox than the engine since it's seems to be less well protected and overheating will definitely kill it.
So I would definitely fit a new radiator. I know it's a pain to change, but they're not that expensive - at least not as long as you don't try to buy from Renault ;)

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 16, 2011, 06:45:04 PM
Quote from: dragonzuiko on March 16, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
Why do these cars like taking money from your wallet  ???

Because its 11 years old now, and any car needs fixing at this age - especially depending of mileage, use and pre maintainance history. And alloy radiators corrode both from the outside and from the inside if cooland is wrong type or not replaced with correct type.

As Anders say, the radiator is not expencive if you source one outside the Renault network. Find a Nissens radiator and it will be good for the rest of its life.
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
Service Online: www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?cid=qqkX

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 16, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on March 16, 2011, 03:47:05 PM
So I would definitely fit a new radiator. I know it's a pain to change, but they're not that expensive - at least not as long as you don't try to buy from Renault ;)

/Anders

OK thanks for the reply, yes i was thinking of changing the radiator, do you know if there are any pictures on the net, how to take the radiator out, i have changed radiators on other cars but this looks like a bigger job. any help would be good.

thanks Peter

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 16, 2011, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: renaultbiler on March 16, 2011, 06:45:04 PM
Quote from: dragonzuiko on March 16, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
Why do these cars like taking money from your wallet  ???

Because its 11 years old now, and any car needs fixing at this age - especially depending of mileage, use and pre maintainance history. And alloy radiators corrode both from the outside and from the inside if cooland is wrong type or not replaced with correct type.

As Anders say, the radiator is not expencive if you source one outside the Renault network. Find a Nissens radiator and it will be good for the rest of its life.

I was looking at the Nissens radiator, funny you mention that, i never heard of them before, are they that good then ?

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 17, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
yes
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
Service Online: www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?cid=qqkX

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 18, 2011, 04:01:07 PM
ok thanks, is there any guides online how to remove the radiator ?

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 18, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
It is supposed to drop down as a complete assy with ac condenser. But thats not nessesary.
Just take off the side indicators, the grille, both headlights - then remove the bumper and the complete steel chassis in the front (surrounding headlights etc). This together gives good space for replacing the radiator from the top without removing the ac condenser as that means a refill of ac fluid.
I think i did it in 2-3 hours complete, but cannot remember 100%.

I have some pictures of it here: http://www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?pid=czqkk-qqqX
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
Service Online: www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?cid=qqkX

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 19, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: renaultbiler on March 18, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
It is supposed to drop down as a complete assy with ac condenser. But thats not nessesary.
Just take off the side indicators, the grille, both headlights - then remove the bumper and the complete steel chassis in the front (surrounding headlights etc). This together gives good space for replacing the radiator from the top without removing the ac condenser as that means a refill of ac fluid.
I think i did it in 2-3 hours complete, but cannot remember 100%.

I have some pictures of it here: http://www.servicehefte.net/servdata/?pid=czqkk-qqqX

Thats great, thanks for the info and pictures.

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Re: Espace v6 2000 mk3 3l radiator
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March 20, 2011, 12:33:46 PM
Would you know the part number for the Nissens radiator ? i have Part Number: 63816A from the ebay page, i did email them but they want very helpfull.

thanks


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