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Started by Jacobosterlindh, May 04, 2007, 09:48:14 AM

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Rearlights on bagheera U8?
May 04, 2007, 09:48:14 AM
Do anyone know on which car i can find the rear lights that's are used on the U8?

Or was there special made just for the prototype?

Image on which i mean:

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Re: Rearlights on bagheera U8?
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May 05, 2007, 07:45:34 PM
Interestin question, the rear ligths look very standart, but from which car? it seams that nobody on this forum knows the answer!

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Re: Rearlights on bagheera U8?
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May 08, 2007, 12:31:37 PM
That is sad. Have been looking for them a long while now, i'm trying to build a u8 look-a-like.

Do you have any suggestions on wich rearlights that would fit moderately?

/Jacob

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May 09, 2007, 12:15:56 AM
Quote from: Jacobosterlindh on May 08, 2007, 12:31:37 PM
Do you have any suggestions on wich rearlights that would fit moderately?
heh - my immediate thought when I looked at the U8 rear was: Urraco! - but it would be taking it a bit far to scrap an Urraco to restore a Baghera ? :-)

How about some of the old Fiat models ?

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Re: Rearlights on bagheera U8?
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May 09, 2007, 04:13:09 AM
Quote from: Lennart Sorth on May 09, 2007, 12:15:56 AM
heh - my immediate thought when I looked at the U8 rear was: Urraco! - but it would be taking it a bit far to scrap an Urraco to restore a Baghera ? :-)


... they don't look similar to me ;)
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May 09, 2007, 12:42:34 PM Last Edit: May 10, 2007, 09:24:18 PM by Jacobosterlindh
haha! no i won't lay my hands on a uracco (;

I have searched a bit on google and i like the alfa romeo gtv from the 80's but they seems a bit big for the bagheera. I think it would be a bit odd if you reflect it.

picture:
http://www.alfaclub.lu/GRAPHICS/ads_gtv6esch.jpg

I have also found another that old skódas have, the car do look like a lada but the rear lights is kinda nice, but too big. skoda 130l i think.

picture:
http://skoda3city.dobis.pl/dane/historia/artykuly/125l/sk_125l_1.jpg


Do anyone have an suggestion on wich lights i could use?  :)

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May 09, 2007, 02:30:39 PM
Have a look at the rear lights of a Ford Capri Mk1. Upside down they might look like the U8 rear lights.

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May 09, 2007, 07:59:47 PM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on May 09, 2007, 04:13:09 AM
... they don't look similar to me ;)
well, I didn't say they were identical, but IMO the U8 resembles the Urraco even more than the standard Baggy. (which got the nickname mini-Urraco when it was introduced)

How about these (upside down) :

although a Renault 30 is probably not easy to find though ?

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May 10, 2007, 09:10:10 PM Last Edit: May 10, 2007, 09:25:37 PM by Jacobosterlindh
;D i have located them! But i don't think it will be a easy to find them :(
It is worth a try, the model of rearlights seems to be well-used on the maserati's and lamborghini's under that era.  8), found the lights on:


Maserati Merak:


Maserati Bora:


And one i first thougt was a Maserati but IS an Lamborgini (espada):


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May 11, 2007, 06:59:23 AM
You are right, Jacob. But HOW on earth did Matra come about to use Maserati parts?

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May 11, 2007, 09:01:34 AM
Quote from: Anders Dinsen on May 11, 2007, 06:59:23 AM
You are right, Jacob. But HOW on earth did Matra come about to use Maserati parts?

- Anders

I got so interested in just why... so i looked it up, maybe the designer of the Maserati Khamsin, the well known Bertone, had a finger in the game?

The years fit: produced within 1974 och 1983. in 421 cars.
And he have done the design on: simca 1000 and 1200 cupé.

But it is just a guess. Maybe Matra just wanted some prestige by using Maserati parts  8)

Aand a picture on the Khamsin is here (it's much more fun to read a thread with pics (; ):

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May 11, 2007, 01:15:20 PM
Citroen had close cooperation with Maserati at that time. Not the same company as Matra but closer to home. I have not checked the Citroen SM rear lights.

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May 11, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Stig on May 11, 2007, 01:15:20 PM
Citroen had close cooperation with Maserati at that time. Not the same company as Matra but closer to home. I have not checked the Citroen SM rear lights.

I was also thinking Citröen, but it isn't SM:



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May 11, 2007, 06:32:08 PM
Citroën owned Maserati from 1970 til 1975 when Maserati was sold to de Tomaso. During the Citroën years there was four Maseratis with the Citroën hydraulic system for suspension, brakes and steering - Bora, Merak, Khamsin and Quattoporte II. Merak has the same engine as the Citroën SM, a six cylinder version of the Maserati V8 found in the Bora and the Khamsin.
Five years later Peugeot-Citroën took over Talbot Matra. But surely the companies must have had contacts during the years when the U8 was developed.

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Re: Rearlights on bagheera U8?
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May 12, 2007, 08:15:09 AM
valross, intresting! A friend of mine have a mint Citroën SM and the sound of the engine in that car is wonderful!

Anyhow, i have got contact with a retailsalesman (in italy) for the rear linses, he did'nt have the the hole lamps... and the price for 2 linses is, take a grab to your chair now; 146 EUR. And this i secondhand...!

Is it worth it?  ;)

Well, i will keep on looking for some cheeper place...

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