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Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi

Started by Martin Tyas, July 08, 2008, 08:09:23 AM

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 24, 2008, 07:08:50 AM Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 09:43:05 AM by Martin Tyas
Quote from: Lennart Sorth on July 16, 2008, 06:47:15 PM
Roy once told me they had developed a new procedure to fit a new TDC sensor, so the new connections made better contact, as their customers seemed to frequently return to the garages with TDC faults.

Quote from: Martin Tyas on July 17, 2008, 08:15:35 AM
In order to fit the latest sensor to earlier 2.2dCi's it's necessary to cut the two wires to the old style connector and splice in the new fly-lead with the new connector.

Knew that I had it somewhere Lennart.... here's the technical note on the 2.2dCi TDC sensor updates

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 25, 2008, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: Martin Tyas on July 24, 2008, 07:08:50 AM
Knew that I had it somewhere
Yup - thats technical note blue 4324A . However, Roy's hint was something they did to improve on the 4324A replacement note, to stop customers from returning with the same fault.

The note is already in the vault under its 4324A name. I cannot decide if I should rename the documents to something human, or retain the real names. Problem is of course that you really need Dialogys to point at the document.

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 28, 2008, 05:33:14 AM
Quote from: Lennart Sorth on July 25, 2008, 02:31:22 PM
I cannot decide if I should rename the documents to something human, or retain the real names. Problem is of course that you really need Dialogys to point at the document.

When I first joined the forum I downloaded the vault information on the JE's and renamed them all so that I could find relevant information quickly and simply without sytematically opening up all the PDF's until I came to the one I needed. I have since, as you know, got a very old copy of Dialogys so don't now, as often, refer to the vault information.... and nor I guess do others with Dialogys

So, my opinion for what its worth Lennart, is that the PDF's in the vault should be named relative to their content/subject matter to make it easier for the majority of people using that knowledge base who do not have Dialogys in any form.

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 28, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: Martin Tyas on July 28, 2008, 05:33:14 AM
So, my opinion for what its worth Lennart, is that the PDF's in the vault should be named relative to their content/subject matter
fair view. - and that is what I initially did (locally, before I created the vault), but it made it impossible for me to track the documents professionals referred to., which caused me to rename them back to the original names.

Maybe using both would help, - i.e. :
   "4324A technical note blue - G9T TDC sensor replacement."

If someone would like to provide me a list of the current vault docs and some good names, I'd be happy to rename as per consensus :)

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 28, 2008, 08:53:26 PM
Perhaps im just very blind as my eyes are blocking my view - where is the vault ?
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2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 30, 2008, 09:42:02 PM
Click on the picture of the Espace on the home page Tom and that will take you to

http://www.matrasport.dk/Cars/Espace/espace-index.html

which has the links to all the resources for the Espace.... picture galleries, history, facts, stories.... and the VAULT

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 31, 2008, 02:32:47 PM
Thanks :)
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
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July 31, 2008, 09:49:39 PM
ps: its not very in-your-face, admittedly, but thats partly because of the borderline legality of the files stored there ...
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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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July 31, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Lennart Sorth on July 28, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
Maybe using both would help, - i.e. :
   "4324A technical note blue - G9T TDC sensor replacement."

excellent idea... covers both worlds

Quote from: Lennart Sorth on July 28, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
If someone would like to provide me a list of the current vault docs and some good names, I'd be happy to rename as per consensus :)

OK Lennart.... I'll volunteer..... BUT.... I'm in the middle of re-roofing parts of the house and replacing the windows so it may be a couple of weeks before I can get around to doing it

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 01, 2008, 06:11:18 AM
I've been using this format when storing, as they then are sortable by NT number:
3485A_SERVICE_PROGRAMME.pdf
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 02, 2008, 06:49:02 AM
It would seem that you already have the job done then Tom  ;)

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 02, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
Some things yes - let me see if i can "stumble upon" a zip of everything out there and post a link for you ;D
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 03, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
 ;D look what i found for the vault by doing some "googling" ::)
http://www.adrive.com/public/fad2ed338e194ade33533e518a957caedeb3a23c24611f6bd0a802f7383461db.html

(29Mb zip)
1980 Alpine A-310 w/GTA 2.5 V6 Turbo
2000 Grand Espace V6 24v Initiale: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2529
2000 Scenic RXi 2.0 16v IDE aut DP0: http://www.renaultbiler.no/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3751
1982 R20TX 2.2
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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 03, 2008, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: renaultbiler on August 03, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
by doing some "googling" ::)
however you googled, or however someone did this file, this was great news for the JE vault, which just grew by 30Mb to fit its name better :-)  Thanks!

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Re: Air-Bag warning ~ 2.2dCi
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August 14, 2008, 08:39:52 AM Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 08:43:01 AM by Roland1975
Perhaps you already checked ... but just as a hint

The connector on the right next to the fusebox caused my car to work not properly (immobilazor). Of course this is not your problem ... but in my case this whole connector was corroded ... and all others connectors look brand new (do not understand why...perhaps some years ago water damage)

This connector has three rows of pins A,B,C ... row C has a couple of pins 1,2,3 which are repossible for AIRBAG after ignition, Power to immobilazor, Connection immobilazor to fuel relay or engine computer, etc

In my case the car worked sometimes but not always (voltage immobilazor between 6 and 10V)...I also still have a faulty airbag system and already changed connection under seats ... I even tested driver airbag by replacing airbag with 2,5 ohm resistor. Renault tried to read AIRBAG computer but got no response. I will now again go to this connector and check if the corroded connector causes the airbag problems like it caused also the immobilazor problems. If neccessary I rewire outside the connector like I did for the Immobilizor.

hope this suggestion helps you.....


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