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« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2019, 07:26:08 pm »

That is a big job. Probarbly the hardest thing I had to do. Took me 3 days to get each one off. They are so easily damaged. I found the hardest part was around the bottom of the window because of the metal plate that sits there. Good luck!

Thank you! I'll be careful and allocate the time it takes. The right hand side is incorrectly fitted after a damage so seems easy, but that side of the car is up against the wall of the garage now so I'm going to attend to the left side first, which seems very tight. I got the left trailing arm off today, however. There is some corrosion in the chassis behind it so I will start brush cleaning that first, then zinc painting.

Also, Politecnic emailed back to me today. They expect to be able to supply new trailing arms end of September. I can always refit the old ole should I need to move the car in the garage.

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2017 BMW i3 "Charged Professional" 94Ah

Used to own:
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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2
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« Reply #91 on: July 28, 2019, 07:58:44 pm »

 Very interstinging ref Politecnic. . Am still.waiting for.my seat covers and they havnt replied to my emails.The swing arm i got from them was very slightly out of line which made it awkward to fit Roy took some photos at the time and I know he wrote to them. I notice you have original cv boots but they still look good. I had to go down the aftermarket type.  You really are making good progress. its taken me years.
Did you have to cut off the swing arm bolts? Also I noticed when you removed the hub bolt you left the borbets ca on! did the socket fit through the centre?
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« Reply #92 on: July 28, 2019, 08:49:58 pm »

Very interstinging ref Politecnic. . Am still.waiting for.my seat covers and they havnt replied to my emails.The swing arm i got from them was very slightly out of line which made it awkward to fit Roy took some photos at the time and I know he wrote to them. I notice you have original cv boots but they still look good. I had to go down the aftermarket type.  You really are making good progress. its taken me years.
Did you have to cut off the swing arm bolts? Also I noticed when you removed the hub bolt you left the borbets ca on! did the socket fit through the centre?

Thank you... I'm not doing a through job like you and taking a lot of breaks to think and do other things...

Yes, the socket fits through the centre. I had to put the wheels back on to get it off.

Don't forget, in french "A demain" doesn't mean tomorrow Grin

The wheel bearing is gone too (not that it matters, just surprised I didn't notice before):


(Click the video to play or click this link: https://flic.kr/p/2gJJTA1)
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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
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« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2019, 07:53:35 pm »

Very interesting ref Politecnic.  Am still waiting for my seat covers and they haven't replied to my emails. The swing arm I got from them was very slightly out of line which made it awkward to fit Roy took some photos at the time and I know he wrote to them.

Please let me correct you there, as that is not right, Terry.

Your semi-trailing arm came from Simon Auto in Germany, and I did say at the time that the bracket may be out of correct alignment as I have noted previous ones from both them and Carjoy were incorrect.

The semi-trailing arms sold by Politecnic in France are more expensive but better made both from the point of view of material used and more importantly, they are correct with regard to the design, so all the angles including the bracket for the shock absorber attachments are correct.

Roy
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« Reply #94 on: August 01, 2019, 09:12:26 pm »

Sorry both. I stand  corrected.  Genuine mistake and I  appologise.
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« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2019, 09:27:01 pm »

Terry, did you remove the windows before removing the rear wings? I'm asking because the workshop manual says they should be removed to avoid breaking them, but it seems to me there's just as much chance of breaking them by removing them?
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2019, 08:45:02 am »

Morning Anders,
Yes I did, However the adhesive on mine was very weak, I could just push mine and they would move slightly, some of the adhesive had also "over spilled" onto the chassis. They were easy to remove , I just ran a Stanley knife between the glass and frame from the inside, the adhesive seemed to be a different type from that securing the wings on. It also made getting a cutting wire between that particular section of the wing so much easier as their is adhesive under the flat piece under the window and above the metal guard that prevents mud and dirt from being thrown and also around the window frame itself.
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« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2019, 09:06:03 am »

In this photo of Donna you can see that the window was bonded to the wing and then the wing bonded to the chassis, It also might give an indication of where all the adhesive was. The most difficult part was around the fuel filler as I couldn't get a wire in there.
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« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2019, 04:19:12 pm »

Thank you, Terry! That's very helpful. I'll give it a go!
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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
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« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2019, 05:27:33 pm »

Half way through!

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« Reply #100 on: August 08, 2019, 05:50:40 am »

Anders.  I took out my windows but the glue was very hard and dry and it took me  \about 8 hours of hard labour!  One thing to beware of is that the vinyl trim in the engine compartment is wrapped around the ledge under the glass.  With all my struggles, I managed to destroy parts of the vinyl trim which are now too short to wrap around the ledge and I am going to have an expensive trim job to look forward to!  You may be lucky and you might have softer glue which comes away more easily.

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« Reply #101 on: August 08, 2019, 04:39:05 pm »

Anders.  I took out my windows but the glue was very hard and dry and it took me  \about 8 hours of hard labour!  One thing to beware of is that the vinyl trim in the engine compartment is wrapped around the ledge under the glass.  With all my struggles, I managed to destroy parts of the vinyl trim which are now too short to wrap around the ledge and I am going to have an expensive trim job to look forward to!  You may be lucky and you might have softer glue which comes away more easily.

Thanks a lot for the warning, Ron. I've spent roughly two hours so far on one, and I still have the forward edge to take care of. It seems more difficult than the other three edges. I think alos that's where the vinyl trim could be wrapped under the window, so I don't think/hope I've damaged the vinyl. Thanks again!

/Anders

UPDATE: The vinyl is along the top. It seems ok, but is hanging loose, so may have some damage. I hope it's not too bad. I'll see when the rest of the window is out.
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1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2
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« Reply #102 on: August 08, 2019, 08:02:18 pm »

Looking good. Will be worth it. It is also very easy to do a.re trim with the wings and windowws out of the way .also wih the trim lifted you can check the coil spring mounts.
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« Reply #103 on: August 09, 2019, 09:23:16 pm »

Looking good. Will be worth it. It is also very easy to do a.re trim with the wings and windowws out of the way .also wih the trim lifted you can check the coil spring mounts.

The window is out and everything looks fine Smiley  I'm also almost halfway down loosening the wing from the chassis... the glue is VERY hard!
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1997 Renault Matra Espace 2.0 8V
1987 Renault Matra Espace J11 2.2
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« Reply #104 on: August 10, 2019, 02:49:35 pm »

Fantastic work!!! Think you may find that if their was a slight gap after fixing the wings on Matra used what appeared to be fibre glass resin to fill the gaps. The only place this appeared to be present on mine was at the very back where it curves towards the light fitting. Look after that glass, I did have two spares but someone needed them.
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