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« on: October 08, 2008, 11:53:42 am »

Is there enyone on the forum that has a Murena Turbo, or any pics of engine/enginebay of Murena Turbos....?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 04:38:53 pm »

I have a magazine article that tests the Murena Adroite, an English right hand drive turbo conversion. I could try and scan that, but the pics are B&W and, to be honest, there isn't much to look at.

Not much help there, am I?
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2008, 05:14:23 pm »

I'm going to be of equally little help Wink The photos I've seen of Murena turbo conversions show very few details: It's just the induction taking up the space with its manifold and fat pipes all over the place. The turbo is well hidden under the exhaust. But I've been told (and find it likely) that a hole must be cut (and a suitable heat shield and new plate welded) in the boot to accomodate the turbo.

Apart from that, it's a bolt-on upgrade, because engine mounts, gearbox, driveshafts etc are the same.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 05:46:50 pm »

Hallo

This is a small site off my Murena, it's only Dutch.
But you can see some pictures'.
You pusch only the heatplate a little bit backwards, and
adjust the gearboxlever a little bit,no big deal.
And you need another clutchplate from a Citroen CX turbo.
It is the easiest conversion.
Under the intercooler I put a stronge fan,and blows down too the
exhaust, it works perfect ,also in a trafficjam.

http://members.chello.nl/d.bruin11/

Eric
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 08:08:49 pm »

Eric, it's a real nice car you have you have there, thanks for sharing photos of it. Engine installation looks good Cool

- Anders
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 08:30:43 pm »

Hi
If you do ot want to get your own hands dirty building a turbo Murena you can bay one on Mobile.de
The asking price EUR 5.200 and that is "Verhandlungsbasis" so the owner is open for offers

hans
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 09:26:58 pm »






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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2008, 06:47:47 am »

I still belive that water/air intercooling is the only suitable solution for a murena.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2008, 07:29:07 am »

I still belive that water/air intercooling is the only suitable solution for a murena.

Will you not have a problem getting cold enough water through your air/water intercooler? If you're taking water from the exit of the radiator, you will only get water through the intercooler when the thermostat is open, and at that time, the water coming out will be cool, but not as cold as the surrounding air?

I do understand that there's a problem getting airflow through the intercoolers, so I'm not implying that you have a problem, just wondering whether the water/air cooler will be better than the air/air?
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2008, 08:34:32 am »

I still belive that water/air intercooling is the only suitable solution for a murena.

Will you not have a problem getting cold enough water through your air/water intercooler? If you're taking water from the exit of the radiator, you will only get water through the intercooler when the thermostat is open, and at that time, the water coming out will be cool, but not as cold as the surrounding air?


Water/air intercooler systems use a separate radiator, pump pipes, etc, and NOT the engine coolant.
Its only in very heavy applications (trucks, tanks etc) where a constant environment is of more concern then maximum performance, that the engine coolant is used.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2008, 09:05:21 am »

I have a couple of them myself also
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2008, 09:05:44 am »

and....
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008, 09:47:13 am »

I'll second that, looks very nice  Smiley

Though some of the other conversions shown are very bad work I must say!

Cutting the chassis would be an absolute no go for me  Sad

If it's doesn't fit or find something that will...


Eric, it's a real nice car you have you have there, thanks for sharing photos of it. Engine installation looks good Cool

- Anders
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2008, 12:12:56 pm »

What i can't get my head around is why in the hell did the take the 505Ti engine, and remove both the turbo and injection to fit it in a sportscar....?  Huh Huh

I would rather say that the Murena and 505 deserved the added power since it is a sportscar and not a typical familiy saloon.....  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2008, 12:54:32 pm »

Matra did not fit a detuned 505 Turbo engine in the Murena. Matra took the engine from the Talbot Tagora, which has exactly the same power output i.e. 115 HP.
Peugeot happened at a later date to select the same engine for their 505 turbo project, as the cast ion block was considered strong enough for their plans for  tuning for racing. The final track versions of the 505 had more than 500 HP.
The Peugeot 505 was also available with an all aluminium 2,2 engine (505 Gti) but that is a completely different engine, which the engineers did not consider suitable for wild tuning.

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