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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2009, 11:52:41 pm »

 Cheesy Grin Cool Love it!!!
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2009, 07:57:52 pm »

Cheesy Grin Cool Love it!!!

So do I! Cheesy

Here's my photos from today:
http://gallery.dinsen.net/v/biler/soelvpilen/newengine/

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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2009, 11:49:16 pm »

Beautiful .. *almost* a shame to hide it away deep inside the car ...

Comparing to my P406 Coupe (same engine) it is amazing so little can be seen of an Espace-III engine once its installed (or the car has been build around it).

/Lennart

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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2009, 05:02:08 pm »

Since this is the L7X 700 Laguna engine - does it have the VVT dephaser pulley and single coils ?

Looking very good!

If you now have some spare plastic covers from your old engine i am interested as mine are scratched from the last cambelt service - looks like its been raped Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2009, 09:10:45 pm »

Since this is the L7X 700 Laguna engine - does it have the VVT dephaser pulley and single coils ?

No, there's the same 3 way ignition coil module as the 727, and no VVT.

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Looking very good!

If you now have some spare plastic covers from your old engine i am interested as mine are scratched from the last cambelt service - looks like its been raped Shocked

Yes, they should be there. I hope (everyone, keep your fingers crossed!) to pick it up tomorrow with a box of souvenirs. The cam belt covers should certainly be there somewhere. I'll let you know, Tom.

/Anders
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2009, 06:41:36 pm »

Just a quick note to mention that IT'S BACK! We're back to level 10!! Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2009, 07:26:18 pm »

WOHOOOO!!!! May you have many lovely miles!  Kiss  Cool
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2009, 08:35:30 am »

Yes, it's back and we love it. The car received a few hungs and kisses yesterday when I came home with it - it's a little like welcoming back a long lost family member! The funny thing was that all day, I couldn't really beleive that I was actually going to pick the car up! I took the train to the garage, and felt I had to call them before leaving - to arrange pickup at the station, I said, but the truth was that I wanted to give them the possibility of telling me it hadn't worked out. All day, my mind was inventing stupid reasons why it should not work out!

And there weren't actually any real problems. Torben is a very good mechanic! The only real problem he had was that there was air trapped in the servo circuit and it took some 20 km of driving for them to get it out. A very small problem compared to the amount of time spent on the operation!



Can you tell the difference? It's easier to see from the underside:



As Lennart mentioned, this engine is very well hidden in the car! But frankly, I don't think it's a pity to "hide" this new engine - the car is much better with the engine INSIDE it than OUTSIDE it!! Grin

Is it better than the old one? I think it's a bit less noisy when cold, but otherwise it's difficult to tell the difference. But if I get in doubt whether we really have a NEW engine, I only need to remove the oil cap and look down at this:



I took one of the damaged cylinder heads with me yesterday, and enjoyed myself taking the cams out of it. They will look good on my workshop table Wink What a pity to scrap this engine, it's hardly worn after 192 kkm Sad The only signs of wear I have been able to find is a little wear on one of the cam bearings in the head:



Tom, I've got the cam covers for you. I also have a 3000 km old servo pump (we renewed it in December), an alternator, an aircon compressor, a starter which looks brand new (but I think it is as old as the engine), and a load of other parts too good to be scrapped:



/Anders Cool
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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2009, 08:49:57 am »

I'm very pleased for you, Anders! Do you have any idea how many hours they spent on the actual engine transplant (and if it's transversable to the 2.2dCi..?)?
I'm sure those parts you've salvaged from the old engine will find their way to needing hands.  Grin
Good news, though! Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2009, 09:49:27 am »

I'm very pleased for you, Anders! Do you have any idea how many hours they spent on the actual engine transplant (and if it's transversable to the 2.2dCi..?)?

Thanks Smiley I think an engine transplant will amount to 30-40 hours. They had one mechanic working full time on the installation since Tuesday, and he probably got some help from a colleague or two in the process. Add to that the time to take the old engine out.

/Anders

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« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2009, 09:56:10 am »

I think an engine transplant will amount to 30-40 hours. They had one mechanic working full time on the installation since Tuesday, and he probably got some help from a colleague or two in the process. Add to that the time to take the old engine out.

OUCH! I'm glad you didn't have to pay for that. I'm sure not going to pay for one for my car.  Cry Anyway enjoy your new car!  Cheesy
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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2009, 03:27:05 pm »

Yes, it's back and we love it.
CONGRATULATIONS !!  - and it looks fantastic.  That was quick the curve returned to the above-10 mark :-)

/Lennart
 
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« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2009, 05:59:07 pm »

Congratulations with a beautiful engine Smiley and the car back !!
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« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2009, 02:10:34 am »

for completeness:


nice to complete that chart :-)
The observant will notice the curve starts and ends above the 10-mark :-)

/Lennart
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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2009, 06:11:13 pm »

for completeness:

nice to complete that chart :-)
The observant will notice the curve starts and ends above the 10-mark :-)

Excellent, Lennart. I guess the point of the "above the 10-mark" is that an Espace brings you just there! Grin

Cheers,
Anders Cool
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