Worklog of my car

RazorbackNOR · September 09, 2010, 07:35:12 AM

Quote from: Jon Weywadt on September 09, 2010, 07:17:39 AM
Quote from: RazorbackNOR on September 09, 2010, 06:53:49 AM

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Any ideas?

The whole distributor housing could be turned. Make sure the vacuum advance membrane is facing towards the right side of the engine bay.

Hmm, seems like you could be onto sonthing there Jon... Would have guessed that someone earlier then me has been fiddling with it... Don't think it can be turned much more then it is now, vacuum hose is allready a bit on the shortside. Perhaps incorrectly assemled then, and leads mounted the wrong way to suit the already wrong position of the distributor...
Here is how mine look, please, post some of yours to, for comparison

Anders Dinsen · September 09, 2010, 07:43:12 AM

That looks like the same position as mine:

RazorbackNOR · September 09, 2010, 08:00:06 AM

From what I could see on the pics you sent me Anders, I concluded that cylinder one(leftmost on the block) goes to the point topmost point on the cap. Cyl 2 to the right of that one, cyl 3 to the left, towards the carb, and cyl 4 at the bottom.

Correct...?

RazorbackNOR · September 09, 2010, 09:03:41 AM

from what i can gather from this, the firing sequence is correct, although it is for the 1,6l, seems lake there are som pages missing in the workshop manual, anybody have these pages (Ca0A202)?

Looking further, it could seem that the position of the leads might be wrong, but why is Anders' firing like it should then....?

Oetker · September 09, 2010, 03:13:59 PM

The distr. looks in the right position.
Maybe some fresh fuel will do the trick

Oetker · September 09, 2010, 05:55:31 PM

Looking at your cables the way it goes, i'm not sure it is correct.
Just for info.
Cilinder 1 is at clutch side.
I use the Tagora engine manual, and there is stated that the distr. goes clockwise, not CCW like the 1.6.

RazorbackNOR · September 10, 2010, 10:07:22 AM

Quote from: Oetker on September 09, 2010, 05:55:31 PM
Looking at your cables the way it goes, i'm not sure it is correct.
Just for info.
Cilinder 1 is at clutch side.
I use the Tagora engine manual, and there is stated that the distr. goes clockwise, not CCW like the 1.6.

Could anybody with a 2.2 please chech this....? from what I can see, it looks like me and Anders has the same rotation( although it also looks like we have the same position on the leads too, and that didn't work for me....)

Oetker · September 10, 2010, 10:24:54 AM

I don't have the car at hand, and am busy with the engine wiring, it is all out.
In the afternoon I am at the garage to look.
I can't start to see rotation, but I can check the cables.

Oetker · September 10, 2010, 02:55:55 PM

Cilinder 1

It goes clockwise 1-3-4-2
It looks the same as you.

RazorbackNOR · September 13, 2010, 06:45:36 AM

YES!!!

Now she's a runner!
http://yfrog.com/jnmvi4200z

Oetker: thanks, you hint did the trick, just swapped the leads one rotation and she fired on the first attempt.

Only thing now then, is that it seem she's running a little lean... have to have at least 30-50% choke to have her running. I didn't stop it on the video, just cut the choke, so, some mor things to figure out.... The joys of having a Murena.

Oh, and by the way, since she was kind enough to get started, and you should always take care of your little "precious" I have decided to name this little beauty, And her name is.......:

GOLDIE

Oetker · September 13, 2010, 07:28:18 AM

Congratulations.
I think Goldie didn't run for some time and need some serious driving with fresh fuel and spark plugs/cables.
A bit standard maintenance will do a lot.

RazorbackNOR · September 14, 2010, 05:24:24 PM

Well then.... Now that she is a runner(if stumbling along on croutches could be considered "running"....), we just have to get her to run properly.....

Seems as I said, that she is a little lean on the mixture, but, how do we go about attacking the problem? what would be the most probable cause for the problem? I can think of:

1. Incorrect carb setting (low petrol/air mixture.
2. Low idle setting
3. Drawing extra air somewhere(vacuumhoses, faulty gaskets)
4. Vacuum on the distributor malfunction

Could someone with a little knowhow PLEASE help me and Goldie....?

Oetker · September 14, 2010, 05:32:49 PM

What did you do so far?
If this was my car, I would start to put on new distr.cap, rotor, spark plugs cables.
Set timing, adjust valves change oil and filters before doing anything else.
I can't find this back in your topic.
If I listen to your engine, I don't have the feeling all cylinders work as they should.

RazorbackNOR · September 14, 2010, 07:30:44 PM

Not to much yet....

Sound quality of video sucked.... didn't get the feeling that it wasn't firing on all cylinders, but that's easily checked removing each of the plugs and grounding them one at a time. also then have the chance to see the condition of the plugs(although i guess they will be fould up now from repeated attemps of trying to start earlier.

Oetker · September 14, 2010, 07:42:22 PM

Don't look to much for faults, just replace and adjust the things I mentioned.
4 sparkplugd €10..-
Distr.cap €10.-
Rotor €3.50
Cables €45,-
Filters €15.-
5 litre oil €15.-
What are we talking about

around €100.- to make this right in the first place, so it can't fool you looking for other problems.