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 on: June 19, 2024, 07:44:34 pm 
Started by Grapes - Last post by Grapes
Took me a while. I installed it two weeks ago or something and then I had to reinstall the dizzy which was a bit of a challenge as finding TDC was not easy for me (in between I adjusted the valves which were all as wide as barn doors) but I had some help and today I finally had the murena alive again... for a minute or so... then it stalled again, fired up again with a bit more trouble and now it's dead again -.-
Still the fuse plate seems to have done wonders as at least I had spark again and that was what initially stranded it. More adventures soon. I hope to have it running before the weekend (fingers crossed)

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 on: June 19, 2024, 06:35:23 pm 
Started by TELBOY - Last post by TELBOY
Hi all, need a little help! I have been gifted a footrest and was able to reattach the footrest to the frame by carefully removing  the carpet and  replacing the 6 broken bolts but I need to know where to drill the holes to fit it. Any photos or measurements would be greatly appreciated.
Terry

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 on: June 10, 2024, 12:48:40 pm 
Started by TELBOY - Last post by TELBOY
More teething issues.
(When a warning light can tell you so much more)
After work Sunday I decided to jump in the Matra and pop down the shops, the car had been sitting for over a week but fired up instantly (which is normal) however the vacuum warning light did not go out as is usual! at the top of the road the engine cut out! it started straight away but would not idle!!! I drove back with it spluttering and cutting out. Here we go again I thought.
I have added additional wiring under the centre consul I made which consists of :- power from ignition to a fuse box then two switches, one for electric fuel pump,  vacuum light pump and the "run on" cut off and "float vent" to the carb, and one for the cooling fan override.. There is also a digital volt meter.
In the engine bay the fuel pump circuit is split between the fuel pump and vacuum pump and carb solenoids.
Because the vacuum warning light came on I was instantly able to diagnose the problem as a lose connection on the carb Smiley
Or you could say I should just run the carb electrics on the same circuit as the  fuel pump.

Other things I just had to do:- Fitted a GPS MPH display (too many 20MPH limits around here, and wired up the oil level warning light (not fitted on my engine) as an auxiliary battery warning light. (for no real reason)
Still enjoying the (usually) twice weekly drives Smiley

 4 
 on: June 07, 2024, 02:16:38 am 
Started by Spyros - Last post by Dokkedal
These are the numbers on my car, a Talbot Matra Bagheera 1980:

Chassis number       X6552AX555409
Country number      46924ALL
Assembly number      47199
Stamped on seat      08MAI79
Written on door         X2 ALL

I also have details on 104 Bagheeras in Sweden - registration, chassisnumber, colour, sunroof or not, owner, in traffic or not, etc
But I donīt have the country number or the assembly number for these cars.
The Bagheera was never officially sold in Sweden. But a batch of some 60 new cars intended for Finland ended up in Sweden 1975 and was sold by a Simca dealer. The rest of the Swedish Bagheeras are private imports.


I can give you the assembly number and all the details for this cars.

 5 
 on: June 05, 2024, 08:10:42 am 
Started by Anders Dinsen - Last post by Anders Dinsen
Its surprisingly easy to reach everything whilst standing in the boot and not too uncomfortable until you forget where you are, stand up, and clout your head on the glass hatch. Done it too many times to mention lol.

LOL. Seriously, it's really well crafeted this way. Actually I can't stand in the boot, I think I'm a tad too tall. I always end up kneeling with my head and hands buried deep in the engine room praying that I'll not drop that nut I'm trying to fit... Cheesy

I've made some good progress, by the way as I now have the front tub with battery installed (and I've built a secondary charging system to keep it charged from my solar charged garage battery), exhaust, rear roll bar, and other stuff fitted. I lost (but found) the special 7mm bolt (with 14 mm head) for the distributor, so I've wasted time making another solution, but now will refit.

Here's a picture of the exhaust joiner with the new O2 sensor.

 6 
 on: May 31, 2024, 06:55:32 pm 
Started by Matra_Hans - Last post by roy4matra
Hello Roy
I got the info from Politecnic's homepage.
Hans

Personally I wouldn't trust that then, Hans! Smiley

I have noticed other things on his website that are not strictly correct too, and since I have the original official Matra microfiche (in English as well as French) from 1983 to 1988 versions, and none of them list the 48 link chain or pump as being from the 'S' model, it is more likely as I stated previously.  These were probably late Talbot modifications to the engines they produced, and so some might think they apply to the 'S' as that was the last of the Murena, but as they were all built in 1983, they may or may not have these.  Certainly those I have stripped have only had the 44 link chain and corresponding pump.

Roy

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 on: May 29, 2024, 03:53:29 pm 
Started by Matra_Hans - Last post by Matra_Hans
Hello Roy
I got the info from Politecnic's homepage.
Hans

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 on: May 29, 2024, 10:41:16 am 
Started by Matra_Hans - Last post by roy4matra
Hi. I have noticed that Politecnic has two different chains for the oil pump in the Murena 2.2.
A chain with 44 links  for the normal  i.e. 115 HP engine and a chain with 48 links for the Murena S.
Are the oilpump in the two engine types different or are the pumps the same but with different cog wheel and resulting in a different gearing.

Thanks Hans


Hello Hans, there is only one pump part number listed in the parts manual but it gives two dimensions for the height of the pump body (44mm or 57mm) so there must have been two versions made at some stage by Simca/Talbot.  There is no mention in the parts manual about the 44 link chain being for the standard 2.2 and the longer chain being for the 'S' model so I'm not sure where you got that information.  I have worked on some 'S' and they had the same 44 link chain as the standard 2.2 Murena, so it doesn't appear to be for that reason.  It's more likely that it was a normal engine design improvement/update, similar to the  change from a 5-bolt flywheel to a 7-bolt one.  I've never seen a 7-bolt crank and flywheel and that includes the 'S' I've worked on - they have all been 5-bolt, so that is another misconception that it was only for the 'S'.  It was really just an update probably to improve reliability or for some other unstated reason, and appeared on later cars, and since the 'S' was the last of the Murena, they are more likely to have these than earlier ones.  If you had a pump with the taller (57mm) body then you would need the 48 link version of the chain.

Roy

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 on: May 25, 2024, 12:24:14 pm 
Started by Matra_Hans - Last post by Matra_Hans
Hi. I have noticed that Politecnic has two different chains for the oil pump in the Murena 2.2.
A chain with 44 links  for the normal  i.e. 115 HP engine and a chain with 48 links for the Murena S.
Are the oilpump in the two engine types different or are the pumps the same but with different cog wheel and resulting in a different gearing.

Thanks Hans

 10 
 on: May 25, 2024, 09:32:59 am 
Started by Grapes - Last post by Anders Dinsen
It looks good indeed. Good luck with installation!

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