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Oetker
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« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2012, 06:45:09 pm »

Nice to hear it is OK.
I am driving the car daily at the moment and the Clio expansion bottle works perfect also when it is 30 degree Celsius.
If you fill the bottle when cold as is showed in movie I provided it works OK.
You need the cap with the peugeot number I provided.
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« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2012, 06:59:37 pm »

This is the cap you need.
In the link the cars it is mounted.

http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260909807394
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« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2012, 07:48:47 pm »

Thanks.
I found that one (attached picture). It is probably the same, and I can buy it at a shop in the town.

I suspect the current cap may be wrong. It may keep too high pressure.

Why did not water come out at the cap when the bottle was full? It is still strange for me...

The next problem will be to set the carburettor....
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« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2012, 07:52:51 pm »

One more question. Is it possible to find a thermostat which opens at lower temperature?
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« Reply #109 on: August 05, 2012, 08:19:43 pm »

Thanks.
I found that one (attached picture). It is probably the same, and I can buy it at a shop in the town.

I suspect the current cap may be wrong. It may keep too high pressure.

Why did not water come out at the cap when the bottle was full? It is still strange for me.

Maybe to high pressure is needed to open the cap.
Only the cap with the Peugeot number is right.
It opens 2 ways.
When pressure is above 0.7-0.8bar and when water cool down it let air in.
This is important to avoid underpressure that can generate air in the sytem.
You can test it this way  Wink  just suck on it andd air has to come in.



Not the most charming picture... I know I suck....

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« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2012, 08:21:37 pm »

One more question. Is it possible to find a thermostat which opens at lower temperature?

What is in there now?

There is 88 and 82 celsius as far as I know.
I have the 82 one
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« Reply #111 on: August 05, 2012, 08:51:15 pm »

What is in there now?

There is 88 and 82 celsius as far as I know.
I have the 82 one

To tell the truth I did not check it. It worked before the restoration so I thought it is ok. But if there is a thermostat with lower opening point, it would be better I think. I will check mine next time.
It was 36 C today here. Weather forecast predict 39-40 for tomorrow...
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« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2012, 08:56:39 pm »


Maybe to high pressure is needed to open the cap.
Only the cap with the Peugeot number is right.
It opens 2 ways.
When pressure is above 0.7-0.8bar and when water cool down it let air in.
This is important to avoid underpressure that can generate air in the sytem.
You can test it this way  Wink  just suck on it andd air has to come in.

Not the most charming picture... I know I suck....


Ok, I see clearly now. If I want a Murena running like a clock, I have to suck! Smiley

I suspect, that I have to high pressure in the system which may have caused the leakage of the hose...
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« Reply #113 on: August 05, 2012, 09:01:51 pm »

What is in there now?

There is 88 and 82 celsius as far as I know.
I have the 82 one

To tell the truth I did not check it. It worked before the restoration so I thought it is ok. But if there is a thermostat with lower opening point, it would be better I think. I will check mine next time.
It was 36 C today here. Weather forecast predict 39-40 for tomorrow...


That is extemely hot for this mid-engined car.
In that climate you defenilely need the 82C one and if still problem make a switch to overrule the thermo-contact on the radiator.
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« Reply #114 on: August 06, 2012, 05:40:13 pm »

I tried to look for thermostats for my car, but did not find in the catalog.

Is it the same as in Peugeot 505 with similar engine? It is still in the catalog.
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« Reply #115 on: August 06, 2012, 05:53:52 pm »

My car bible say yes and also other talbots and the Peugeot 309
And according to it, it has Peugeot number 1337.53
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« Reply #116 on: August 06, 2012, 11:19:15 pm »

And what about the top of the thermostat housing (nr. 06043)? Is it also common with other Talbot or Peugeot cars?
Mine is a bit eroded at the hose connection. Maybe I should also change it...
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« Reply #117 on: August 06, 2012, 11:46:32 pm »

And what about the top of the thermostat housing (nr. 06043)? Is it also common with other Talbot or Peugeot cars?
Mine is a bit eroded at the hose connection. Maybe I should also change it...

The Murena parts book gives Peugeot number 1337.80
Not verified by me if it is corrrect.
Bagheera Simca and Murena 1.6 give different numbers so it's not the same I supose..
That is all I can tell about it.

Greetz herman
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« Reply #118 on: August 07, 2012, 05:50:52 pm »

Ok, thanks. But it is also impossible to find parts for a Peugeot 505 here... Sad

Fortunately Simon has that part in stock. I have to order the cooling hose with the bleed valve so I can also buy it.

Today I bought a new thermostat with lower opening temperature, 81C. I hope it fits.
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« Reply #119 on: August 13, 2012, 07:04:44 pm »

Now I am busy with the rubber strips.
Some of them are shorter than they should. The strips on the rear side windows and on the C pillars. It seems they have shrunk during the years. Is it a common problem?
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