davidewanprice
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« on: April 01, 2008, 03:26:23 pm » |
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The passenger side electric window has been playing up for years now and i really want it fixing. If you lower the window its very slow, raising once you've done this is even slower! sometimes making a clicking noise, and when the window reaches the top, the motor clicks like the mechanism is slipping. The driver side just stops, no noise.
Ive disconected the glass and let the mechanism work without load and it seems fine, the glass seems to move fairly freely in the channels (when raising and lowering by hand). So does this mean its just a tired motor or maybe a broken cog inside? slipping under strss of the load?
I was going to reove the motor but am not sure how. Can someone advise?
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phil75
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 05:01:09 pm » |
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I think that the engine is very tired.
I had the same symptoms on mine before it ceases functioning definitively.
But I did not have time to look at more closely.
On the other hand last week I bought a mechanism with engine of Renault 9
First note : the engine is identical with that of the murena (even reference engraved above)
and second notice : the mechanisms are similar
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davidewanprice
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 08:25:43 pm » |
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Thanks for the pictures, would you say its work the effort to try to fix it, im thinking even if i find the fault, the part won't be available, except if i buy the full motor? thats if i can get that?
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hru
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 08:35:44 pm » |
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The passenger side electric window has been playing up for years now and i really want it fixing. If you lower the window its very slow, raising once you've done this is even slower! sometimes making a clicking noise, and when the window reaches the top, the motor clicks like the mechanism is slipping. The driver side just stops, no noise.
Ive disconected the glass and let the mechanism work without load and it seems fine, the glass seems to move fairly freely in the channels (when raising and lowering by hand). So does this mean its just a tired motor or maybe a broken cog inside? slipping under strss of the load?
I was going to remove the motor but am not sure how. Can someone advise?
Hi David You should take a look at http://www.matrasport.dk/forum/index.php?topic=773.0(you must log in to see the pictures) I have renovated the motors, it can be done and also cheap. I have another problem also, which is the broken tooth wheel - this is not easy /Henrik
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davidewanprice
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 06:07:48 pm » |
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I'll try and remove it later and see whats to do, thanks for the info..
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davidewanprice
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2008, 09:40:37 pm » |
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Ok today was D day, I took my time and took out the motor etc and cleaned everything and put it back, i didnt take the motor to bits as i couldnt see an easy way in. Anyway i cleaned it as best i could and cleaned the inner door runners and put it back.... Doh, no improvement, guess im going to have to look out for a new system.. If anyone see's one do let me know. Thanks guys, David
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Oetker
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 12:03:52 am » |
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If you did all that, and the system is running smoothly, only a new motor wil do the trick. That can be difficult. I don't need to replace the system yet, but I am on the lookout for something that wil fit. I am not at the point yet that I have exact sizes of all things, but looking around my eye did fall on the Ford Ka systemfrom around 96. Angle and fitting does look it may be a alternative with some adjustments. Not sure that its possible, but will find out in time.
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I feel like Jonah, only my fish looks different. Murena 2.2 Red 1982. Murena 1.6 black on places.
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davidewanprice
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 07:11:07 pm » |
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Is there anyone with progress on this topic?
Ive asked Matra Magic if he has an original motor but no can do...
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roy4matra
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2008, 07:05:24 pm » |
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The passenger side electric window has been playing up for years now and i really want it fixing. If you lower the window its very slow, raising once you've done this is even slower! sometimes making a clicking noise, and when the window reaches the top, the motor clicks like the mechanism is slipping. The driver side just stops, no noise.
Ive disconected the glass and let the mechanism work without load and it seems fine, the glass seems to move fairly freely in the channels (when raising and lowering by hand). So does this mean its just a tired motor or maybe a broken cog inside? slipping under strss of the load?
Yes the motor is probably the real fault. The mechanism is rarely at fault from my experience. And the clicking is also a common problem - see my FAQ's for the low-down. I was going to reove the motor but am not sure how. Can someone advise?
That is also explained in my FAQ's However, it was only finished recently so I do accept that it may not have been there when you last visited. Another reason to at least check the index page occasionally. One suggestion here to you and others. Since you don't really need an electric window on the drivers side (which is easy to reach and work) but an electric one on the passenger side is almost a must as it is out of reach, and in the UK at least it is often the one you need for tolls, booths, etc. why not do what Mercedes used to do and I did with mine. Change the drivers door to manual (plenty of these available as everyone wanted electric!) and then you can use your good motor on the passenger side. Roy
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